Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017)

Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by tarsinge on Thursday July 29, 2021 @07:58AM (#27995401)

I personally hate when that happens because usually I really want to do X for good reasons. In the end the people asking got help on troubleshooting their specific problem, but the question is still unanswered (or answered by “You don’t want to do that because you’re a beginner”).

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Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by kosievdmerwe on Thursday July 29, 2021 @01:40PM (#27999141)

Reminds me of the time I asked "How can I do this Python feature in one-line because I'm writing a to-one-line Python transformer".

Still got idiots replying that I shouldn't be doing what I want to do in one line.

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Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by shawnz on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:42AM (#27995770)

If you are so unfamiliar with X that you require the advice of experts to implement it, then how can you say so confidently that the reasons to do X instead of Y are justified, even though those experts disagree?

If it's really true that the conventional wisdom about Y is just wrong, and X really is better in some cases, then it will be a long process to get all the experts to reconsider their assumptions, requiring battle-tested proof, and that probably won't happen in a single SO thread.

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Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by tarsinge on Thursday July 29, 2021 @09:39AM (#27996393)

I'm not unfamiliar with the problem space and why I want to do X, I'm just looking on implementation details. If the question was "How should I solve that problem? Should I use X?", then sure "use Y instead because it's a better practice" would be a valid answer.

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Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by patrickthebold on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:10AM (#27995493)

I'm the opposite. I often catch myself asking about Y and then needing to back up and ask about X. I even know the problem by name and can't help (occasionally) asking the wrong question.

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Re:Why does man print “gimme gimme gimme” at 00:30? (2017) by tarsinge on Thursday July 29, 2021 @09:49AM (#27996508)

I don't disagree, but then the question should be phrased that way, or it should be mentioned than there may be better way for generic use cases but the original question still answered.

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