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Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by dragonwriter on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @08:30PM (#27991434)
> GM had the technology basically perfected a decade ago with the Volt.

The Volt is tiny car with limited utility. The RAV4 EV has vastly more cargo and passenger space.

For a single person going from point A to point B it might not matter, but the technical challenge of battery range plus utility isn't the same as battery range disregarding utility.

Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by Robotbeat on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:39PM (#27991859)
I have a Volt and it's awesome. It's a hatchback with lots of cargo space (5 seats in the Gen 2 Volt, too). Don't know that you mean about "limited utility." The Volt powertrain would've worked fine in a crossover vehicle like the Rav4 with only a small scale-up.
Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by dragonwriter on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:55PM (#27991966)
> I have a Volt and it's awesome. It's a hatchback with lots of cargo space

It has 10.6 ft³ of cargo space. A Yaris (a subcompact) hatchback has 15.4 ft³, Prius Prime has 19.8 ft³, Honda Civic Hatchback has 24.5 ft³, RAV4 Prime has 33.6 ft³ (for models with folding seats, those are all without seats folded.) The Volt doesn't have “lots” of cargo space, it has miserably small cargo space whether compared against other compact cars or other PHEVs.

Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by yurishimo on Thursday July 29, 2021 @12:29AM (#27992792)
Depends on where they're located. Outside America, subcompact cars are still the norm unless you need the utility of something large for your immediate family/job. Only got 2 kids? Subcompact.
Re:Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investment... by dragonwriter on Thursday July 29, 2021 @01:32AM (#27993114)
> Outside America, subcompact cars are still the norm unless you need the utility of something large for your immediate family/job.

Yes, and by that standard the Volt is a big car (not a subcompact), but still has small cargo space for a hatchback (2/3 of a Yaris, which is a subcompact.)

By American standards, its a fairly small car that has very small cargo space relative to its size, and so tiny cargo space compared to what the market expects. And also small compared to competing PHEVs, which to be fair generally also have small cargo space relative to size.