Re:Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic sy...
by perl4ever on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:07PM
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>realising how alien they are
You can't dehumanize someone and claim to understand them simultaneously. It's logically incoherent to draw a conclusion from a failure to understand.
When I try to understand people, I start by assuming that they, like everyone, have an inner self with the golden rule hardwired at a very basic level, and anything appearing to violate that is an illusion creating by coping behavior, distortions in perceptions, or something. Psychic pain being prioritized over everything else can make the resulting behavior very confusing.
Also, since I'm not a professional psychologist I don't have to pretend I understand when I don't.
Re:Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic sy...
by runawaybottle on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:30PM
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So, what are you implying, that shrinks know exactly who is off their rocker within a few sessions?
Re:Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic sy...
by GavinMcG on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @06:19PM
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No, they seem to be implying that your armchair analysis that seems to boil down to "everything is part of the same framework" is simplistic at best.
Re:Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic sy...
by morpheos137 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:10PM
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I don't understand why people think lying is so difficult. It is human nature to lie and manipulate. At least that was how I was brought up. I think people who think that normal is goody two shoes are virtue signalling or decieving themselves. The average person in the world just wants to get ahead. Sometimes prosocial behaviors help with that. Sometimes they don't. It depends on the relative amount of hostility vs cooperativeness in the specific environment.
Symptomatically, personality disorders are basically relational dysfunctions. Some are developed as compensations for barely having an ego at all. They're fairly well documented.
The most shocking thing for outsiders is realising how alien they are. People with no knowledge of psychology literally cannot imagine how it's possible for people with these issues to lie consistently without guilt, act without empathy, and have conversations that appear coherent but make no sense at all relationally.
Drug abuse is a different issue with a much wider range of causes.
Burn out and educational failures are real issues and can be caused by real external problems. Someone who has a poor teacher objectively, or even just a teacher who is a bad fit, does not have the same psychology as someone who persuades themselves all teachers are bad because teaching itself is evil.