Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

Re:Israeli military search team helped recover majority of S... by DSingularity on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:12PM (#27987367)

I am sorry but you are really quite off. Answer me this, how you would feel if you were an Arab living in Palestine? How would you feel if you had to live in an apartheid system where another person can kill your family or steal your property with more-or-less impunity just because you are an Arab? Now tell me how would you react when you read that Israel precision-bombed an entire family [1] in response to “Hamas rockets from nearby”. Stop dancing around the real problems. Widespread racism. Apartheid policies. Settler colonialism. Systemic injustice. Disproportionate responses. Tell me your solutions to these problems.

I think you assume a lot when you say that people post “from the sidelines”. I would say that given the huge number of Palestinian victims some the people who post on the forums have probably suffered a loss of family/property/livelihood because of the Israelis.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2021/05/23/999563043/gaza-residents-acce...

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Re:Israeli military search team helped recover majority of S... by skinkestek on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:01PM (#27989656)

> how you would feel if you were an Arab living in Palestine?

Terrible. Either I'd feel terrible because I was oppressed by the Israelis or less likely I guess because I realized I was oppressed by Hamas and Iran.

Again: I see both sides. If everyone here where overwhelmingly denying Israel ever did anything wrong I could play another role.

That never happens though so I am relegated to always inform people about basic pro Israel facts.

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Re:Israeli military search team helped recover majority of S... by DSingularity on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:39PM (#27990083)

I’m not sure I understand your “less likely” remark. Are you conceding that Israel is doing most of the oppressing of Palestinians? Or do you mean that you wouldn’t feel terrible about Israeli land-theft/killing/jailing/apartheid because of Iran and Hamas?

While we are on this topic: how is this a “both sides” issue? Let’s keep it simple and not try to compare Israel oppression of gazans to the Hamas/Iran oppression. Please explain to us how does Hamas and Iran oppress West Bank Palestinians?

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Re:Israeli military search team helped recover majority of S... by skinkestek on Thursday July 29, 2021 @06:50AM (#27994971)

> I’m not sure I understand your “less likely” remark. Are you conceding that Israel is doing most of the oppressing of Palestinians?

I mean Hamas has a pretty strong grip over what gets said and written in Gaza.

> Please explain to us how does Hamas and Iran oppress West Bank Palestinians?

Torture, disappearances, embezzlement of aid, using civilians as shields. Iran comes in as supporters.

Yes, in some way this is not a both sides issue. One side is almost a normal democracy, the other is run by a cleptocratic regime that refuses to hold elections.

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