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Re:IPv4 pricing by blibble on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @12:47PM (#27985907)
given abuse coming from a given IPv6 address: which subnet do I need to block to stop the user behind that address

(for fraud detection it switches from block to identify)

for IPv4 this is generally the /32 (the single IPv4 address)

for IPv6 it's probably a /64, but may be a /56 or even a /48, and on some crappy providers even a /128

if the subnet is smaller than you think it is you risk banning an entire ISP (or country), whereas if if it's too large the abuse continues

it's quite a complicated problem as by design you can have subletting (subnetting!) within a block, e.g. a VPS provider gets a /48 from its ISP, and then they sublets out /64s to their customers (while not necessarily giving them all their own RIPE/ARIN records)

Re:IPv4 pricing by mfrye0 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:48PM (#27986873)
Got it. Yeah, it's definitely tricky.

The other aspect is that a decent chunk of the IPv4 space at least is fairly dynamic. We've seen some blocks change owners every few weeks.

Re:IPv4 pricing by 2Gkashmiri on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:50PM (#27987973)
can i ask a question? is it possible for people to "own" ipv4 addresses? like we can own domain names? something like /29 Subnet or /28?

if i spent like a hundred bucks or something, i dont know... just asking. how would that work, does that "bring your own ip" that vps providers talk about mean this?

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Re:IPv4 pricing by JustFinishedBSG on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:52PM (#27988896)
Yes by becoming an ASN.

In pactice you cannot have less than a /24 because nobody will announce less than a /24