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Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by brightball on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:38AM (#27984321)
It’s probably not popular, but I always thought that Slashdot had the best voting system for comments or was at least on the right track.
Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by sumtechguy on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:38PM (#27986685)
SD has, for lack of a better term for it, a time problem.

If you post early you will end up +5/-1. If you post late you comment will be stuck at 1. People tend to vote on what they see first too. So the stuff at the top just ends up +5/-1. It does not really signal anything. The cap SD system only works if the group of people posting/voting is small, the story churn is low, and the votes are hard to come by. Soylent added in a disagree vote which was neutral. Which seemed to help some. But they also added in way more votes per cycle. On that board most of the 'disagree' though ends up with people marking -1 troll. Basically they accidently found people want to punish in some way. When the real vote should have been a disagree 0.

Up/down voting seems to work OK. But only if you have mods willing to mod and not push/punish anything.

Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by dec0dedab0de on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:48AM (#27984454)
I used to think that, but /. comments devolved into dumb jokes around 2003-2005. Which I think is the main reason that hn down votes jokes so aggressively. I do like the meta-moderator system. however, without holding back mod points to begin with there is no incentive to do it.
Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by Shish2k on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:39AM (#27985088)
I haven’t visited /. for years so maybe out of date, but IIRC this was largely helped by separating voting from type - so even if a comment gets a lot of upvotes for being funny, my personal settings of “ignore funny comments” means I still get a decently high-quality signal, which is something I’ve not seen anywhere else
Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by smhenderson on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @12:29PM (#27985721)
I know why people don't like them and I get that you are correct that it got pretty absurd on /. around the time period you mentioned.

But I miss the jokes sometimes. I have to resist the urge to reference Rob Malda when I'm reading HN occasionally.

Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by esyir on Thursday July 29, 2021 @11:16PM (#28004056)
Good the main issue with jokes is they're the text equivalent of a Meme pic or "look what I did" type post. Easy to consume content with little actual meat. They attract upvotes easily when accepted because of that lack of substance.

Without a culture that rejects them, they, by nature, rapidly overwhelm most communities in content if a voting system is present.

Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by cmdrtaco on Thursday July 29, 2021 @09:21AM (#27996210)
No way, that guy is the best.
Re:Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Need... by commandlinefan on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @12:36PM (#27985790)
> hn down votes jokes so aggressively

"if you insist on taking up my class time making jokes, please see to it that they are funny."