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Re:IPv4 pricing by sparkling on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:32AM (#27983496)
It looks like the Cloud machines are not affected by this price change?
Re:IPv4 pricing by TimWolla on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:13AM (#27983975)
The pricing change is only about additional IP addresses for a single machine. Each machine will still come with one IPv4 included for "free":

> Our dedicated root servers will continue to include one free main IP; there will be no change here.

Re:IPv4 pricing by metafunctor on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:19AM (#27984070)
Yep. A “dedicated root server”, though, is dedicated hardware. They start at about 30-40 €/mo. TFA does not mention cloud servers (virtual machines) at all.

Virtual machines from Hetzner, however, always come with an IPv4 address. For security reasons, I’d much prefer to get them without one (I disable the interface and firewall it 100% anyway), but it’s not an option to get a virtual machine without the public IPv4 address. One would think they’d provide that option if they are already hitting commercial limits with the IPv4 address space.

Re:IPv4 pricing by TimWolla on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:58AM (#27984590)
> For security reasons, I’d much prefer to get them without one (I disable the interface and firewall it 100% anyway), but it’s not an option to get a virtual machine without the public IPv4 address.

I agree and hopefully without leaking anything: This is also an request within their customer forum [1].

[1] https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/28220/&postID=277...

Re:IPv4 pricing by fri_sch on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:51AM (#27985239)
You don't leak anything as the link doesn't seem to be accessible publicly (at least for me).

But it also feels kind of strange to me, that they complain about IPv4 shortage while still handing them out with each VPS instance despite a lot of users actually don't need or even don't want to have them. There should be an option, or even a small fee for a public IPv4 on cloud servers.

Re:IPv4 pricing by TimWolla on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:16PM (#27987426)
> You don't leak anything as the link doesn't seem to be accessible publicly (at least for me).

Yes, the forum requires registration and is open for customers only. That's why I said that I hope I don't leak anything (by saying that this topic was discussed in their (private) forum).

Re:IPv4 pricing by fri_sch on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:02PM (#27988181)
Sorry, got it now. As I am a customer I will get an account an have a look. Thanks!
Re:IPv4 pricing by noxvilleza on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:05PM (#27986151)
This (firewalling the IPv4) is actually a great idea, I never considered it before because I use their basic downtime metrics / alerts - but that could easily be pushed to IPv6 (or just another external service entirely).
Re:IPv4 pricing by a254613e on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:46AM (#27984426)
They are. The cheapest server plans and ipv4 floating IPs are affected by this change. The FAQ only covers the root servers part though.
Re:IPv4 pricing by terom on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:52AM (#27985253)
Is there an announcement for this somewhere?

The marketing page [1] still lists the same €2.49 + VAT /month price for the cheapest CX11.

[1] https://www.hetzner.com/cloud?country=ot

Re:IPv4 pricing by NmAmDa on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:58PM (#27987083)
They sent Email to all their customers about that. They raised prices.

Product. Price per month / hour up until now Price per month / hour, effective 1 Sept 2021

CX11 2.49€ / 0.004€ 3.49€ / 0.0055€ CPX11 3.49€ / 0.006€ 3.99€ / 0.0065€

Re:IPv4 pricing by metafunctor on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:51PM (#27987993)
Indeed, just got that email 30 minutes ago. Apologies for any misinformation I may have pushed elsewhere in this thread.

Still, it sucks to pay €1.00/mo for an IPv4 address I don’t want or use.

Also, they should update the marketing site to clearly show the impending price change.

Edit: they’ve updated the website.

Re:IPv4 pricing by noxvilleza on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:39PM (#27986701)
They are, just got a mail about it actually: https://i.imgur.com/m9z67mB.png (I have a few cloud and dedicated machines on Hetzner).
Re:IPv4 pricing by metafunctor on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:49PM (#27986907)
Yep, floating IPs are additional. One IPv4 address is still included (and non-optional) in, say, a CX11 cloud server.