Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A?

Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by 14u2c on Monday July 26, 2021 @06:37PM (#27966332)

Retail PC sales are only a small portion of the x86 market. The vast majority of corporate PCs will continue to use x86 in the foreseeable future for compatibility reasons. On the datacenter / cloud side providers are trying to make inroads with ARM, such as Amazon's Graviton, but are meeting similar resistance.

Additionally we have yet to see x86 on the TSMC 5nm process. Making that leap once Apple's reservations expire may remove much of the performance gap.

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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by qalmakka on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @01:39AM (#27969000)

I think one big reason for this is how disappointing on the shelves ARM chips are compared with Apple's offering, and the lack of a standardized platform like the PC was for x86.

UEFI on AArch64 is a good start, but we really need to reach a point where a single image can be installed on every ARM desktop machine, like it has been for decades for Intel and AMD. Also, the lack of FOSS drivers for lots of boards mean that you risk getting stuck on a specific kernel version forever.l All of this is absolutely unacceptable, as long as there's x86_64 out there that's competitive and doesn't suffer from these downsides.

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Re:Intel's Process Roadmap to 2025: with 4nm, 3nm, 20A and 18A? by shadilay on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @12:29AM (#27980255)

Absolutely. x86 standardization has made generations of developers forget what it was like coding for a specific machine. ARM is still far behind despite the enthusiasm.

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