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Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by AmVess on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:50PM (#27965273)
Hydrogen for vehicles is very nearly fully developed. Honda says their upcoming generation is no more expensive to manufacture than an ICE vehicle.

The problem isn't with hydrogen vehicles, it is with the production of hydrogen itself. Once (IF) humanity licks the generation of electricity problem, hydrogen vehicles will be the mode of transportation for nearly everyone.

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by WorldMaker on Monday July 26, 2021 @06:15PM (#27966165)
> Honda says their upcoming generation is no more expensive to manufacture than an ICE vehicle.

A hydrogen vehicle from Honda (or Toyota) is an EV (electric motor, lithium ion battery) with an expensive fuel cell ("weird battery") and expensive fuel tank tacked on (and maybe missing an electric plug). An admission that they've got the cost of Hydrogen cars down to the same costs an ICE vehicle is an underhanded admission that they can build EV cars cheaper than ICE.

(The problem is with hydrogen vehicles. It's a funny red herring to just producing good cheap EVs.)

Re:Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to e... by dragonwriter on Monday July 26, 2021 @06:20PM (#27966202)
> A hydrogen vehicle from Honda (or Toyota) is an EV

Yes, FCEVs are EVs, just like BEVs are.