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Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by kevin_thibedeau on Saturday July 24, 2021 @05:37PM (#27944691)
You don't need old school MTV to find this. Just go to a grocery store and see all the women's magazines that promote insecurities. It's an entire business model. Female editors are presumably highly represented at these magazines and they don't seem to have a problem with the destruction they wreak.
Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by atoav on Sunday July 25, 2021 @01:08AM (#27946870)
Yes, but these magazines are something you have to actively buy and read. As the uncle of three girls I'd say what has more impact is peer pressure in social media. Girls from your class/school displaying images of themselves fulfilling certain body stereotypes. Seeing the same images in advertisements makes things only worse.

Putting female people into certain position doesn't turn them automatically into liberal challengers of the status quo, who rationally question the things they learned their whole life, certain kinds of pressure comes in the worst forms from other women (mother, grandmother, aunts, colleagues, etc).

E.g. if you are a girl in a typical family in Italy cutting your hair short, getting a tattoo, or not wearing a bra is something your relatives definitly will mention negatively to you. The only reason being that they have an idealized image of what a woman must look like to be a "propper woman". If you don't look like that they might think you are a lesbian, have psychological problems or similar silly causal connections.

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by fxtentacle on Sunday July 25, 2021 @02:34AM (#27947225)
The thorny issue is that your 3 examples might reduce that girl's chances on the dating market, so it might even be reasonable for her relatives to attempt to support her in obtaining a high quality partner.

I'd say the critical part wrt suicides is not that people are competing for attention from the opposite sex, because that has been around for a million years. The critical new aspect is that people are now grossly underestimating their relative standing. And that's because social media makes the one pretty outlier actress from the other side of the globe feel personal and acessible, which tricks us into treating them like a valid comparison point even though most high school girls will never need to compete against a Hollywood actress on looks, because the latter one is unavailable to all of her male classmates anyway.

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by zepto on Sunday July 25, 2021 @09:58AM (#27949203)
> most high school girls will never need to compete against a Hollywood actress on looks, because the latter one is unavailable to all of her male classmates anyway.

Is this actually true?

Just because the hollywood access (or porn star) is unavailable doesn’t mean the male classmates are behaving that way.

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:26PM (#27946158)
> Female editors are presumably highly represented at these magazines and they don't seem to have a problem with the destruction they wreak.

Regardless of gender, the people that rise to the top tend to be sociopathic…

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by lugged on Sunday July 25, 2021 @02:50AM (#27947305)
All 1-4% of them...

The insinuation that anyone who rises to the top of an organisation must be sociopathic is dillusional.

Yes, there is a higher incidence at the CEO level, traits that help you in a role also help you get there, go figure, but the idea all leaders are sociopaths is a huge stretch based off nothing but your own bias and distain for anyone high up in a power structure, that seems to be going around right now.

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by DaiPlusPlus on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:08AM (#27957285)
> 1-4%

Citation needed, as well as a fully qualified definition of "organisation". It's not fair to equate the leader of the local farming co-op with the editorial head of a major newsgathering (or in present-times: news-aggregation) corporation.

Re:Schools opened, suicide attempts in girls skyrocketed by nerdponx on Sunday July 25, 2021 @03:37AM (#27947476)
Is there any reason that sociopathy can't exist on a spectrum, and why 1-4% of the population couldn't be somewhere on it? What's the state of research in this area?