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Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by mschuster91 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:44AM (#27941366)
> This is a good idea but tough to do. Prior appropriation claims are legally considered vested property rights.

Re-nationalize them or at the very least make them expire in 10 to 20 years. The current developments are serious enough to justify taking these "rights" away.

Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by bradleyjg on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:01AM (#27941494)
Under current case law if you nationalized (state-ized?) water rights in a prior appropriation state it would be a kind of eminent domain and there’d have to be compensation.
Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by bnjms on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:15AM (#27941617)
Eminent domain followed by an automatic lease for the value of the rights over whatever period these things are valued at? Would that work?

Farmers could quit farming and sell their rights by the year.

Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by bradleyjg on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:18AM (#27941633)
I don’t follow the automatic lease part of your proposal, sorry.
Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by bnjms on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:33AM (#27941771)
To avoid having to directly pay out to the owners of the property the state can lease the water rights back to the farmers. This way everyone’s unhappy but we escape the status quo and aging farmers could live off the water rights.
Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by bradleyjg on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:36AM (#27941797)
I see. You use the time value of money to reduce the total cost by giving back the near term years and only “really” buying from x years out. Clever!
Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by underseacables on Saturday July 24, 2021 @02:36PM (#27943392)
What’s more valuable, water, or cash?
Re:Without Enough Water to Go Around, Farmers in California ... by thenewwazoo on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:55AM (#27941454)
Sure that’s the right plan but who’s going to do it? Remember that there is no Left in the USA.