Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by valine on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:07AM
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If no one wants to buy you drop the price until they do. Not saying it’s a good policy, but it would drive down real estate speculation and lower rent.
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Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by chrisseaton on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:08AM
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What if you drop the price to zero and still nobody has any use for it at the moment?
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by datastoat on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:17AM
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How about making the tax increase each month the unit is unoccupied, but also making it proportional to the asking rent? No one has any use for it, high asking rent => high tax. No one has any use for it, very low asking rent => low tax.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by tomjen3 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:50AM
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That would require that nobody has any extra use for free/cheap space. It would mean that nobody needs additional storage space, nobody needs space for a studio or an office.
This would essentially only happen if you rented in a mega high crime area, which means landlords would be incentivized to do something about crime.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by ectopod on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:23AM
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If nobody will buy the property for $1 then it's worthless. Gift it the local authority and then you won't have to pay the tax.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by chrisseaton on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:26AM
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People won't buy it because it comes with a tax burden. They might buy it to redevelop it if it didn't.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by dwater on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:40AM
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That does not seem like a realistic problem for very many places. If a jurisdiction contains land with so little value that it won't support the taxes required for upkeep of the jurisdiction, then the jurisdiction could dissolve. Which is what happens to a ghost town I would imagine. That is not likely to happen to New York City.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by ectopod on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:40AM
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So over time the vacancy tax is increasing and the sale price is going down. Obviously the vendor needs to sell or redevelop before the price hits zero. If they fail to do so then they lose the property. Speculation sometimes fails. What's the problem?
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by effingwewt on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:11AM
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Good, then it will go to someone who needs a house, not another rent-seeking parasite.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by valine on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:13AM
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Presumably the vacancy tax would be tied to the value of the property. If the property really is worthless you won’t be paying taxes on it.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by chrisseaton on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:17AM
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> Presumably the vacancy tax would be tied to the value of the property.
> increases every month
It can't be both things at the same time.
And who's setting this land value? If it's on the market and nobody's buying then we don't know the value.
Re:Empty storefronts are killing neighbourhoods
by robinson7d on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:49AM
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Why can’t it be both? Could have a logarithmic scale, could have it increase by a fraction of a % of $(value - currentTax) so that it increases more slowly over time.
Not saying I agree with the underlying idea, just confused about why “increases ever month” necessarily means it cannot be “tied to the value of the property” in a `calculateTax(propValue, timeEmpty)` sort of way.