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Re:Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covi... by unlikelymordant on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:40AM (#27939744)
I disagree with you on most of this. Looking at the all cause mortality graphs for the US is pretty sobering, and comparing to the relatively much more flat all cause mortality graph for australia is all the reason i need to be pro lockdown. It seems pretty clear that lockdowns work, and also that governments dont want to be locked down any longer than necessary- because it is bad for the economy. But hospitals being over capacity like in the UK or india is also pretty bad, and i see healthcare as being one of the pillars of civilisation.

I do see some 'cleanliness theatre', but the thing about r values is that little things help a lot. Washing hands regularly, wearing a mask. I havnt a cold in 18 months, which is pretty unheard of for me, because everyone is taking a bit more care. If only covid were 'only' as contagious as the cold, we probably would have beaten it already.

Re:Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covi... by murgindrag on Saturday July 24, 2021 @07:38AM (#27940027)
> If only covid were 'only' as contagious as the cold, we probably would have beaten it already

Nope. When numbers go down, we relax. When hospitals fill up, we lock down. It doesn't matter how contagious COVID is. It will remain at endemic levels forever, on the path we're on.

We've turned a billion dollar problem into a multi-trillion dollar one in February 2020. Now, we're turning it into a tens-of-trillions-of-dollars problem.

100% N95-equivalent masks. 100% vaccination. 6 foot distancing whenever possible. Outdoors whenever possible. That would still get COVID today, but it might not in a year. Delta and Gamma are concerning, and we'll only see more mutations, and ones better able to jump our mitigation measures.

Re:Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covi... by unlikelymordant on Saturday July 24, 2021 @08:09AM (#27940209)
We beat sars-1 just fine, and mers, mainly by quarantining infected. Sars-1 literally no longer exists. This is very strong proof that we would have beat covid too, if it were less contagious.
Re:Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covi... by murgindrag on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:35AM (#27940819)
I think it's a better example of random chance. We had a series of diseases. We didn't heed that as a warning. One eventually (and predictably) slipped out.
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Re:Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from Covi... by unlikelymordant on Saturday July 24, 2021 @08:17AM (#27940257)
> Because lockdowns Haven't worked or we wouldn't be having them again in Australia.

But australia has beat many flare ups by locking down, right back to 0. The fact it keeps coming back from countries that dont lock down is hardly proof lockdowns never work.

The thing about r values is it doesnt need everybody to be washing their hands, just enough to break the chain. If the person who would have infected you never caught it, then you wont get it, and so on.

>You're literally doing what I said. You're using the one metric to justify never ending lockdowns

Total deaths? Yeah im using that metric. A lot of people have died, australias response shows they died unnecessarily.