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Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by BitwiseFool on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:46PM (#27935984)
We actually had a few Pacific Islanders express anxiety with selecting "Asian American/Pacific Islander" because they were worried that identifying as such would subject them to more competition. They were advised to do it anyways.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by temp8964 on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:15PM (#27936738)
I read somewhere says "Asian American/Pacific Islander" is a totally made up term by the federal government and basically has no root in reality.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by dragonwriter on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:21PM (#27936785)
All human “races” are social constructs with no basis in reality other than the social perceptions of the group delineating them.

So, yeah, that's true of API, but its just as true of, say, White.

Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by morpheos137 on Friday July 23, 2021 @08:21PM (#27937276)
There are most certainly meaningful genetic clusters in human populations. You can call these races or something else but to assert that differences between human populations only extend to a few superficial traits like skin tone is just ignorant and silly. For example there is a meaninful genetic reason why some sub-saharan populations have a higher incidence of sickle cell anaemia than Irish people or why most of those with native American heritage are less able to tolerate alcohol than Europeans.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by haihaibye on Saturday July 24, 2021 @08:50PM (#27945682)
> Genetic cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-reported race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster membership different from their self-identified race/ethnicity.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000292970...

Yes, "Continental superpopulations" is a more accurate term but it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmcWGV...

Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by refenestrator on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:56AM (#27940979)
It's more true of API, look at an Indian, Chinese and Samoan person.

The API group is basically "everyone else".

Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by xyzzyz on Sunday July 25, 2021 @02:07AM (#27947103)
This is true in the exact same sense as is saying that all animal species are social constructs with no basis in reality other than the social perceptions of the group delineating them. Which is to say, in not very useful sense at all.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by datad on Friday July 23, 2021 @10:56PM (#27938045)
It’s a self label though, so social perceptions aren’t involved. I am whatever race I identify as, not whatever race other people think of me as. I can tell people that I’m Mexican and who are they to say otherwise?
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by klipt on Saturday July 24, 2021 @12:34AM (#27938420)
There are limits to the self identification theory. See: Rachel Dolezal.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by BurningFrog on Friday July 23, 2021 @08:20PM (#27937262)
The long shared history between Fijians and Turks is sadly not taught in US schools.
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by rayiner on Saturday July 24, 2021 @10:54AM (#27941443)
The term “Asian American” was made up by Berkeley activists to cultivate left-wing identity among unrelated people: https://time.com/5837805/asian-american-history/
Re:Why is the university of California dropping the SAT? by imwillofficial on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:15PM (#27936740)
When the policies enacted to attempt to be less racist, have people scared to be honest about their race, I think you’ve blown it.