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Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by phkahler on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:01PM (#27935594)
>> It doesn’t mean I want someone to...

It means the thought crossed your mind with enough strength for you to post it. In almost all cases that's a big nothing, but it's a tiny breadcrumb that might start to look like something if there are a lot of them, or if you were to rant on about it in a thread. Its interesting to think about automating searches for actual threats or patterns that might be indicators.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by kbenson on Friday July 23, 2021 @08:49PM (#27937443)
Not necessarily. It means at least that in the mental model they have of other people they think those other people might do something. Importantly, that mental model does not need to be correct or accurately model any real person or group for that to be expressed.

For an example (a silly one so people don't make a useless tangent arguing irrelevant details), if I for some reason believed that all Chevrolet drivers were fanatics and psychotics, and after someone made a disparaging comment about Chevrolet vehicles, I might say "I wouldn't be surprised if Chevy drivers assaulted someone over this". This doesn't mean I think that should happen, as it's an expression of what I think other people might do. It also doesn't actually express that other people might do this, because my mental model of those people is obviously incorrect. The only thing you can actually infer from that statement is what I think about that subgroup of people, whether I'm one of them or not, and that's just opinion.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by teawrecks on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:16PM (#27935747)
My guess is that this comment was flagged by an automated system and only once someone reviewed it did they say "nah, this is nothing."

> it means the thought crossed your mind...might start to look like something if there are a lot of them

This doesn't make any sense. Thinking about worst case scenarios is normal. The person who is going to rob you is the one person who is definitely not going to tell you in advance that you're going to be robbed.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by mulmen on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:27PM (#27935829)
As one counter example the Christchurch murderer posted a manifesto in advance of his attack then livestreamed it, including before the first murder.
Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by CamperBob2 on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:55PM (#27936063)
It's one of those scale-dependent things. As a rule, history's greatest atrocities didn't originate in secret. From the Communist Manifesto to Mein Kampf to the PNAC charter, the architects were not shy about telling anyone who would listen exactly what they thought should happen or what they planned to do. It's fair to place the Christchurch shooter in that category.

At the other end of the spectrum, it seems that people who go online and rant about how someone should shoot the President or cut a judge's brake lines or whatever are the least likely to follow through. They aren't exactly the movers and shakers of civilization, more likely just thoughtless kids or random loudmouths. Wasting law enforcement time on nonspecific threats is the sort of thing a government that has too much power tends to do.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by mulmen on Friday July 23, 2021 @06:04PM (#27936149)
Wasn't the Christchurch shooter known for ranting online in advance of his murders?

Did he not say exactly what he was going to do, then do it?

I don't see what scale has to do with it.

I also don't see how an absolute statement like "The person who is going to rob you is the one person who is definitely not going to tell you in advance that you're going to be robbed." can be believed. It only takes one counter example.

This is a thread about anticipating crimes based on online commentary, something that could absolutely have flagged the Christchurch massacre.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by CamperBob2 on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:19PM (#27936769)
Did he not say exactly what he was going to do, then do it?

Yes. The point being, he wrote a manifesto, not a vaguely-ominous sounding tweet.

Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by mulmen on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:25PM (#27936823)
Well he did both as far as I know. He had a history of posting racist messages including threats of violence. Ultimately he posted a manifesto and then took action on his words. The video itself was a warning because it started before the shooting. A timely enough warning based on that alone could have prevented this tragedy.
Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by markdown on Saturday July 24, 2021 @07:09PM (#27945141)
> He had a history of posting racist messages including threats of violence. Ultimately he posted a manifesto and then took action on his words. The video itself was a warning because it started before the shooting.

Seems you know this background and motivation well. Since it perfectly fits the definition of terrorism, why won't you call him a terrorist? Is it because he isn't brown?

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Re:Released from a gag order regarding a federal investigati... by mulmen on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:10PM (#27936683)
> Because only brown people are terrorists, amirite?

I chose "murderer" as a stronger word than "shooter". I didn't say anything about "brown people". I'm not sorry and you are out of line.