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Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by Choc13 on Friday July 23, 2021 @10:26AM (#27931014)
>> “A good vision for the metaverse is not one that a specific company builds, but it has to have the sense of interoperability and portability”, Mr Zuckerberg said, adding that there should be protocols like the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) internet standards for defining how experiences will be built.

Except defined by Facebook, so not really anything like W3C.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by ethbr0 on Friday July 23, 2021 @01:00PM (#27932944)
Top reason Facebook won't succeed here: they're too greedy.

Say what you want about MS and Google, but they left a lot of money and opportunity on the table for others.

Facebook... notsomuch.

Which works fine when you start with a first mover platform. But doesn't work nearly as well when trying to grow a platform from nothing.

Here's hoping the effort crashes into the ground.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by ComodoHacker on Friday July 23, 2021 @01:18PM (#27933195)
When the other option is being forcibly broken up as a monopoly, your greed would advise you to lose less rather than more.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by ethbr0 on Friday July 23, 2021 @03:02PM (#27934396)
Hyperscale tech was smart in the way they designed their business to wrap around existing anti-trust law (via creating captive markets inside of larger markets and spanning multiple market categories).

We'll see if they're smart enough to outflank Antitrust 2.0, or if they make the same mistakes as Big Railroad / Oil -- assuming they're more powerful than government and/or believing their own PR about how they're not a monopoly.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by cwkoss on Friday July 23, 2021 @12:59PM (#27932930)
Are there any facebook products that have "the sense of interoperability and portability"? Seems like most of their properties strive for the opposite...
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by chaostheory on Friday July 23, 2021 @01:21PM (#27933234)
Their Quest headsets still work fine with Steam… for now
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by cwkoss on Friday July 23, 2021 @02:21PM (#27933990)
I got a quest 1 for as a gift a couple years back. They frequently automatically installed updates that break mods. Now, my headset is currently bricked and I need to figure out how to factory reset or something to fix it.

Maybe its just indifference, but given facebook's history it feels intentional.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by chaostheory on Friday July 23, 2021 @02:47PM (#27934249)
The quest is a console. If you want to use mods without too many issues, you need to use a PC for VR.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by cwkoss on Friday July 23, 2021 @03:52PM (#27934886)
Yep, my friend has the Index which I really like. Leaning that direction for my next VR system.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by chaostheory on Friday July 23, 2021 @11:22PM (#27938138)
You can still use your Quest with a PC. You don’t need an Index for that.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by istorical on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:48PM (#27937045)
Both Twitter and Facebook had much more open and developer friendly APIs in their early growth stages, which they slowly reduced as their reliance on 3rd parties diminished, as they in-housed features and killed off third party integrations, and in FB's case, after they got fucked by their permissive APIs and open standards in the Cambridge Analytica debacle.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by meiraleal on Friday July 23, 2021 @01:13PM (#27933113)
Yep, but they have enough researchers to figure out that this will not work forever and web3.0 will eat them.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by dingosity on Friday July 23, 2021 @11:05AM (#27931486)
oh man. there have been at least three efforts i'm aware of to standardize the metaverse in the last 30 years. none of them really went anywhere. fb was invited to participate in the last one i paid attention to (VWRAP), but they politely declined.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by cratermoon on Friday July 23, 2021 @11:31AM (#27931796)
And now they'll take all the ideas from the previous efforts, pick the ones that will make them the most profit (revenue - development costs) and tada a new propriety, privately controlled ecosystem that slowly replaces whatever is out there. See, for example, Open Graph replacing Dublin Core.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by selfhoster11 on Friday July 23, 2021 @01:23PM (#27933264)
How is Open Graph replacing Dublin Core? I'm not familiar with the space.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ by cratermoon on Saturday July 24, 2021 @02:27AM (#27938909)
They're both specifications for adding structured metadata to the web. https://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/da-dublincore,da...