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Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by route66 on Friday July 22, 2011 @04:45AM (#2792817)
Hmmm .. Security by obscurity?

When I look at my server logs I see lots of attempts to crack into software, components or programming languages I do not use and which can't be found on the server. The common cheap hacking script doesn't even care if it's a windows box when it's dumbly requesting the isapi.dll.

I wonder if the effect is the same as grinding the lock-makers label off my door locks.

Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by nodata on Friday July 22, 2011 @04:52AM (#2792827)
Removing version information makes it more difficult for an unskilled automated attack on a server, which is what most of the attacks are.
Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by route66 on Friday July 22, 2011 @05:02AM (#2792841)
That's my point: For an attack I just send my php 4.1 patchlevel nnn specific script I just bought to 200.000 webservers on some it will work. This is indeed the majority of attempts I'm seeing. So it would break only attacks which do a switch on version specific information. My guess is that it would nor lower the number of attempts nor the success rate, a target will be found anyway, version information or not.

I would guess that scripts which bail out humbly in absence of version information are not in the majority, but I could be wrong.

Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by cheald on Friday July 22, 2011 @06:36AM (#2792980)
Obscuring the version number just means that Joe Blackhat has to run through 10 exploits to try to get a hit, rather than just 1. The time difference is likely insignificant.

All this does is produce a false sense of security which may lull system administrations into putting off critical upgrades.

Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by nodata on Friday July 22, 2011 @07:47AM (#2793124)
Joe Blackhat isn't running the exploits - Sam Scriptkiddie is.

> All this does is produce a false sense of security which may lull system administrations into putting off critical upgrades.

Then the sys admin needs replacing.

Creating more work for those that automate system attacks is a good thing.

Re:Secure Apache and PHP, hide version numbers by SaltwaterC on Friday July 22, 2011 @04:54AM (#2792832)
Most of the "security" is in fact obscurity: here's something I know, you don't, while in order to find out what I know is unfeasible for you to compute all the possible combinations. Same goes for the "randomness" theory.