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Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:18PM (#27910775)
> I've had the virus (so I now have superior natural immunity), but despite it nearly putting me in the hospital, I'm convinced that not risking the "vaccine" was absolutely the right call - YMMV.

I had it too, and every licensed medical authority of any kind I talked to still advised me to get the vaccine. I talk a lot of shit about the medical profession, but I'm not so deluded as to believe that my understanding of immunology is better than theirs.

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by mixedCase on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:42PM (#27911094)
If you want to believe the bullshit against mRNA vaccines and won't recommend them, at least don't spread the FUD and ideally recommend the adenovirus-based ones like J&J, AstraZeneca or Sputnik.

Or if you want to be extra luddite (or like me, it was the only thing I could reasonably get) you can recommend Coronavac from Chinese lab Sinovac or Covaxin from Indian lab Bharat Biotech, which are as old-school as they come since they're using the deactivated SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by dublin on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:50PM (#27911202)
If I had any interest in any SARS-Co-V2 vaccine, it would be tone based on inactivated virus, but the risk of this virus just doesn't justify the risk of any vaccination in the first place, especially since I've had it....
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by skyde on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:58PM (#27911314)
very curious by this statement. As you said it yourself the symptom of COVID are way worse than the flu. Do you also think getting the flu vaccine is not worth it?
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by heurisko on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:16PM (#27910748)
mRNA based vaccines such as Pfizer do not change your DNA.

https://fullfact.org/online/rna-vaccine-covid/

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Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by hasty on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @04:45PM (#27911941)
That's not how mRNA works; the whole point is that it temporarily induces some cells to produce spike protein, but this effect does not last long as mRNA by its nature decays as it is used.

Also, that's not what autoimmune means.

Also, there were not "deaths of all animals" or even some; you can read about Pfizer's initial animal testing here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.08.280818v1.... and the results here: https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download There's also a follow-up paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03275-y

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by ajyey on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:14PM (#27910723)
FUD. Provide sources for your claims.
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by dublin on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @04:55PM (#27912041)
The last couple of weeks of VAERS data confirms that while deaths from the "vaccine" are still rare, the "vaccines" are now killing twice as many people as the virus itself. Public Health Scotland last week admitted that over 5500 people have died in Scotland (pop. 8.4M)within 28 days of taking the "vaccine", a death rate also exceeds the death rate from the virus itself.

Given that the CDC admits that since VAERS reporting is voluntary, only around 10% of incidents are likely reported, that should be enough evidence of "vaccine" danger to give anyone pause. Also, it's a travesty that CDC has flipped the usual "must be proven safe and effective" process on it's head to "has not yet established a causal link to the Covid-19 vaccines". (See last Friday's update at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad...)

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by hasty on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @05:52PM (#27912673)
The population of Scotland is 5.4m, not 8.4m.

Knowing that lets us do a little math about expected death rates. In 2019, ~58,000 Scots died over the course of the year; that gives a rough chance of dying on any given day of 0.002%.

As of today, about 3m Scots are fully vaccinated vaccine, and another ~1m have either received a single dose or are still within the 2 week period after the second dose. If you add up the 28 day periods after those doses, that gives 196m days of Scots living "within 28 days of taking the 'vaccine'". You would then expect ~5,700 of them to die even if given saline, just by the underlying death rate.

So 5,500 is actually a bit lower than expected, maybe due to residual lockdown effect, or perhaps just that people who get vaccinated are generally better at risk/benefit analysis and are less likely to die from all causes.

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by serenloss on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:15PM (#27914540)
She blinded me with science!
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by thebruce87m on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @05:56PM (#27912718)
Scotland does not have 8.4M people, it has around 5.5M people.

Can you post a source for the 5500 claim? For reference, we had around 5500 deaths in Scotland in total for 1 March - 4 April [1], so to get an extra months worth of deaths would be a big deal.

[1] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/march-death-rate-lowest-f...

Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by BizarroLand on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @06:30PM (#27912999)
No, they can't, because they're mindlessly repeating FUD they heard 7th hand from some apoco-preppers pro-trump blog and they are on their way to purchase beef jerky, shovels, ammunition and toilet paper so that they're ready for the big one.
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by fallingfrog on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @03:07PM (#27910638)
They did controlled double blind studies on thousands of people to verify the safety of the vaccine before releasing it. This is FUD.
Re:‘I’m sorry but it’s too late’ a doctor on treating unvaxx... by scohesc on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @05:25PM (#27912425)
I'm sure they have.

What they haven't done is adjust spacetime so that we know what the vaccine could potentially do - a year down the line? two years?

We literally do not know. At all. We can make educated guesses. At that point - I'd rather abstain from the jab for now at least until this flu season is over.

Feel free to judge me for my personal opinions but I'm not getting it yet. Too early for me. Let everyone else be the guinea pigs.