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Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by dleslie on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @01:40PM (#27909441)
The lawns and golf courses are a small fraction of use compared to farming.
Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by briga on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @01:47PM (#27909534)
Definitely, but highly wasteful nonetheless. Easier to tell someone to stop growing their lawn than telling a farmer to stop growing their crops
Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by bcrosby95 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:06PM (#27909814)
Lawn is definitely wasteful. But residential water use in California is only around 10% of water used. This is a population that has already cut their per-person water use in about half over the past 30 years.

You could probably get another ~30% reduction in residential use by eliminating lawns. Depending upon how you go about it, trees are probably more important in that environment though as a cooling element. Our backyard patio increases heat by a good 5-10 degrees on sunny days.

But it's still not much water saved. The only reason to do it would be to sell it politically - "everyone has to sacrifice". Which I'm fine with. But if your goal is to make residents do this but tell farmers they can do whatever they want, it's kinda pointless.

Edit: I also think there's somewhat responsible ways to have lawn in California. Subsurface irrigation can reduce lawn water usage by 30-40%. And certain drought tolerant grasses require 60-80% less water. These setups seem very rare though.

Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by jedberg on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:00PM (#27909734)
Is it? Farming represents 3% of California's GDP, but 40% of the water. If California decided to simply sell that water to other states and then give the money to the farmers in exchange for not farming, the farmers would probably come out ahead. It's also a lot easier to enforce than making sure people don't grow lawns.
Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by blooalien on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:13PM (#27909912)
> It's also a lot easier to enforce than making sure people don't grow lawns.

It might be easier to convince people to not grow lawns if we'd do away with some of the stupid laws and ordinances that require people to have "well groomed" lawns in places where such grass is an unnatural imported occurrence.

Perhaps even offer some tax breaks or other incentives to "zeroscape" or landscape their yards using native plant life suited to the climate. A yard without a lush verdant lawn need not be an ugly yard. It can still have plants and look nice without grass, if we'd "normalize" more nature/planet friendly practices instead of punishing people for not being destructive to their environment.

I bring this point up because here in Utah many neighborhoods will actually fine you if you don't have a lush green lawn in your yard. (Unless of course you're rich, then somehow you magically get approval to go the zeroscape route if you so desire.)

Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by jedberg on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:27PM (#27910111)
I definitely support a statewide ban on requiring lawn watering. Luckily here in California, because of continuing drought, most cities have already made it legal to not water your lawn, and you can't require tenants to water a lawn.

I would definitely like to see it taken farther as you have suggested -- give tax breaks and subsidies for people xeriscaping or replacing lawns with synthetic turf.

Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by bcrosby95 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:29PM (#27910124)
In the last drought, California actually started fining agencies for over-using water. And our water provider established water allotments based upon our residence, and if we went over we would get fined.

And it definitely works. I knew a lot of people in HOAs that mandated residents eliminate a certain amount of lawn due to these fines.

Re:The Colorado River is shrinking by kevinmgranger on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @01:53PM (#27909624)
Depends on the definition of easier. Telling a multitude of voters they don't get to have their Normal Rockwell painting of a life, versus telling a handful (relatively) of farmers that their water usage is now restricted? Lawmakers will choose their interpretation based off of that.