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Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by 0xTJ on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:40AM (#27906094)
I'd call the current title of this post blatantly wrong. In common use, "emotional arousal" and "arousal" have very different meanings.
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by chalst on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:12AM (#27906536)
I'm still able to edit the title: care to suggest another version that fits within 80 chars? The title alone fits, one char to spare, but I didn't want to pass off a 4-y.o. paper as if it was pharmacological news.
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by xVedun on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:28AM (#27906754)
Possibly something like this: Caffeine and theanine have opposed effect on attention when stressed (2017)

Based on the definition of emotional arousal, stress isn't 100% accurate, but perhaps better than aroused.

[1] https://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotional+arousal

Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by chalst on Friday July 23, 2021 @09:06AM (#27930205)
That theanine has a beneficial effect on stress, via cortisol suppression, is a long-standing hypothesis. That it has other effects under the article's umbrella term of "emotional arousal" is one of the interesting novelties of the article for me.

Too late to edit the title now, but for the benefit of next time, I'm still interested in suggestions.

Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by TheFreim on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:47AM (#27906191)
Almost skipped an otherwise interesting topic because of this.
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by nkozyra on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:45AM (#27906168)
Agreed; in fact, it makes two points that have different impact:

> Consumed together, caffeine and theanine exert similar cognitive effects to that of caffeine alone, but exert opposite effects on arousal, in that caffeine accentuates and theanine mitigates physiological and felt stress responses.

This is inline with the anecdotal evidence about theanine's mitigating effect on caffeine & stress.

Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by benogorek on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:53AM (#27906271)
So is it fair to say that with tea relative to coffee, you get all the cognitive benefits and none of the arousal downsides (e.g, anxiety)?
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by tracedddd on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:57AM (#27906327)
Not none. The downsides are moderately decreased in my experience. I’m not sure the amount in tea, I suppose it varies greatly, but I’ve tried several different l-Theanine doses and caffeine mostly still feels like caffeine, just slightly modified.
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by sunshineforever on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:39AM (#27906897)
In my experience, many of the negative effects are greatly reduced. When my dad first brought back a box of PG Tips from a work trip in London, I discovered I could drink like, ten cups and still function. Only moderately burned out.

If I had drank the same amount of coffee I'd've needed to lay down. It was great for all nighters playing Halo multiplayer.

All this time I thought tea's superiority was due to it having "more hydration" or something. This is so interesting to know!

Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by whoisburbansky on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:55AM (#27906313)
In my experience it’s been that tea gives me far less anxiety, but still a nonzero amount. It doesn’t wipe it out entirely, but it reduces the physiological symptoms of anxiety.
Re:Caffeine and theanine exert opposite effects on attention... by sunshineforever on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:24AM (#27906681)
I understood "arousal" to be the emotional sort of arousal, but I see your point.