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Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by avidiax on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @10:09PM (#27901561)
That's an interesting take, but it seems like a post-hoc rationale/strategy to me.

Conservatives will block any rise in the minimum wage, but couldn't completely block additional unemployment benefits.

Progressives would back a rise in the minimum wage, but had to deliver on relief for the unemployed working class, so they did just that.

The secondary effect of rising wages was probably only something that conservatives were expecting.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by ryanobjc on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:07AM (#27902854)
Disagree, many progressives totally also expected prices to rise.

The alternative of forcing people to go to work while covid-19 sick, or being laid off and facing total abject poverty, and such... well not very attractive.

Prices & wages going up was going to be inevitable with inflation, which was on the plate, even if unemployment was never expanded and we forced the working poor to work, or eat our of dumpsters.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by 71a54xd on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:03PM (#27901902)
Yep, but at the end of the day anyone who's trying to build wealth or have anything left for retirement gets fucked by inflation. People who are spendthrift and receiving UBI or unemployment payments (long term) were never trying to do that anyways and their payments in theory would increase with inflation.

I'm a supporter of the idea of UBI but I just can't see the incentives panning out realistically.

Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by akiselev on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @02:30AM (#27902972)
How are the incentives panning out now? Every system has trade offs and the ones we've made seem to get worse and worse.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by 71a54xd on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @12:57PM (#27908834)
Great, actually. I've worked my ass off, paid-off my student loans and live in a great city. By no means making crazy developer money either.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by mindslight on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @12:50AM (#27902450)
But price inflation is the policy goal regardless of minimum wage or UBI. In fact, government spending makes for better inflation in that it is spread around the economy, rather than lending based inflation that only shows up in CPI after it sends assets through the roof.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by 71a54xd on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @12:58PM (#27908848)
Could you go into more detail here? My head is still slow to digest economics concepts like this, but this is something I certainly haven't read about before.
Re:Restaurant workers quit at record rate by mindslight on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @05:07PM (#27912196)
The Federal Reserve's mandate is to make sure there is a steady level of gradual price inflation. The main way they accomplish this is to lower interest rates, so that more money gets lent out into circulation. But this new money only affects the Consumer Price Index via housing assets and other big ticket items that get financed - it doesn't directly bid up the demand for consumer goods.

Whereas if the federal government creates more money (via debt) and gives it out direct aid to the people, it goes right into the consumer market. Prices rise across the board, getting the CPI to the target level without the Federal Reserve having to lower rates.

There will always be inflation as long as the monetary policy is to create inflation. But government spending at least chooses somewhere explicit for it to end up, rather than the default option of just inflating financial assets (which we've had quite enough of).