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Re:Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calc... by WarOnPrivacy on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:22PM (#27889177)
> If that's the price houses are selling for, that is the market price.

I'll rephrase it this way. Cash buyers are paying way above and beyond what the house was listed for.

Likewise prospective renters are offering rents above what is advertised.

Re:Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calc... by cperciva on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:49PM (#27889308)
Fair enough. Maybe this is a recent trend in your area, but in Vancouver people have started referring to asking prices as "liar prices" or "marketing prices" -- they're often set low to attract interest with no intention of actually selling at that price.

In my case, I bought a house last summer and offered exactly the seller's asking price -- which they rejected, countering $5k higher (which I agreed to).

Re:Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calc... by throwaway09223 on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:28PM (#27889501)
Yeah, but people are listing low to attract more eyeballs.

I sold a place in the bay area 5 years ago. I knowingly listed it about $200k under what we expect it to go for based on comps. Huge swarm of interest and many buyers offering a price at around what we expected.

It's just a sales strategy.

Re:Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calc... by WarOnPrivacy on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @12:09AM (#27889972)
> Yeah, but people are listing low to attract more eyeballs.

Any other year I'd accept that. However, that's unlikely to be true this year - in most US markets. Buyers and renters alike are bidding up properties because there is one property or less for every 100 prospects.

Here, landlords get 400 applicants the first day a rental is listed. The second day they get 400 more unique applicants. The rental we just moved into was up for less than 2 hours and received 50 applications. We won by paying 6 mos in advance + last + 1.5x security.

Re:Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calc... by throwaway09223 on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:05AM (#27894641)
Look, you don't have to take my word for it, the data is public. Go look up the comps and you'll see they match. There's nothing to "accept," it's just a fact.

There have always been hundreds of prospects for each house sold. When I sold the aforementioned house we got roughly 500 people the first weekend and we were in contract after just a few days. It's been a hot market for a very long time.

Sellers set a low price because the price doesn't matter. It will be bid at the market price regardless.