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Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by Jiro on Monday July 19, 2021 @03:41PM (#27886522)
I don't believe in decolonizing archives.

(It's amazing that the article says this with complete seriousness.)

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by fosshogg on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:59PM (#27889635)
You wouldn't think it was amazing if you graduated with a Literature degree. This is the norm now. Texts are purposely ransacked for ideological goals instead of closely studied for transcendent themes and values. And I am willing to bet my entire life's savings that no one would give a shit about Dickens or Browning in this situation. Not one bit.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by AlotOfReading on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:59PM (#27889925)
Decolonization as the article uses it just means to have curricula include authors from a diverse range of perspectives and backgrounds. If you think people should spend more time studying "transcendent themes and values", I can't imagine why you'd be against that.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by hodgesrm on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @08:47AM (#27893059)
How about just saying that directly? The language is very confusing.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by AlotOfReading on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:01AM (#27894598)
It's the only meaning that fits contextually. You can also ignore the sentence that contains it and be no worse off in understanding the argument. People just fixated on that particular word for whatever reason.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by subsubzero on Monday July 19, 2021 @07:50PM (#27888600)
Just the title of that website makes me "allegic" to its content :) To be fair if people(the public) wanted to review these documents just digitize them. Google's book search project could probably do the whole archive in a day(they scanned rare and ancient books from Stanford and other top libraries) and make them accessible to all.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by JoelMcCracken on Monday July 19, 2021 @04:20PM (#27886866)
What does it mean? I agree that this information should be open and available to all, but I find this language confusing.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by tablespoon on Monday July 19, 2021 @04:36PM (#27887013)
> What does it mean? I agree that this information should be open and available to all, but I find this language confusing.

Honestly, it seems like a faddish buzzword, incorrectly used.

IIRC "decolonizing" sometimes means returning cultural artifacts acquired during colonial times to the regions/cultures where they originated. However, it doesn't make any sense to do that to cultural artifacts created by citizens a colonial power in their own originating culture. Honestly, that sounds like another kind of colonization.

This article seems like a mess trying to force a combination of trendy ideology with personal experience that don't really fit. For instance:

> For her, the archive became a place of postcolonial recovery and remembering.

What's that in reference too? A student seeing a card catalog that's still in use, and being reminded of personally using them in the past. It's weirdly trying to particularize the universal. I'm about the farthest from a "colonized" person there is, but I could have had the exact same reaction to the exact same situation as that student. The only difference is that I have the wrong background, so no one's going to try to gratuitously describe my reaction as something "postcolonial."

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by antonvs on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:06PM (#27889686)
> However, it doesn't make any sense to do that to cultural artifacts created by citizens a colonial power in their own originating culture.

The issue here is that these works have been in a private library, inaccessible to the public, since the 1930s.

In this case, the author is using "decolonize" to mean to liberate the work from private ownership and make it available to the public.

When "decolonize" is used in the context of e.g. education, it refers to restructuring an education system to be more equitable to all students. As such, the idea of providing access to everyone is a default implication of the term, even if its origin more specifically relates to dismantling the colonial baggage that led to structural inequality.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by tablespoon on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:48AM (#27895206)
> In this case, the author is using "decolonize" to mean to liberate the work from private ownership and make it available to the public.

If that's the case, it seems like jargon for jargon's sake. IMHO that sense would have been much more clearly communicated by using a word like "democratize."

The situation kind of brings to mind slang, where people often invent unneeded new words mainly as a way to signal being fashionable or being part of a group.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by antonvs on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:07PM (#27926192)
Sure. And if you read HN as an outsider, you'll find a metric buttload of such terms.

The people reacting badly to this are just being somewhere between parochial and bigoted.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by rualca on Monday July 19, 2021 @08:25PM (#27888833)
> The only difference is that I have the wrong background, so no one's going to try to gratuitously describe my reaction as something "postcolonial."

"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."

The only tool the author of that blog seems to have is their personal ideological beliefs regarding colonialism, thus the author proceeds to treat everything as if it was colonialism.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by SiVal on Monday July 19, 2021 @05:20PM (#27887378)
Yes, it's confusing, and a dictionary won't help, because it's religious jargon. Religious jargon, whether from a theistic or, currently, a non-theistic religion, is used to turn comments about nearly anything into declarations of faith.

When a single religion dominates academia, as has often been the case through the centuries, they can comment on anything, but it will always be expressed in the form of an argument for their institution's religious doctrines. Professors at Cambridge in the early 17th century were almost all puritans, so they could talk about chemistry experiments, but it would have to be presented as yet more proof of the glory of God and include some jab at popery.

In the religion of today's academies, they can choose to talk about Brontë family artifacts as being emblems of "white supremacy" that should be hidden or destroyed or public goods that need to be "decolonized" (opened and freely given to all), but either way, the jargon combines the opinion with the jab at "popery" required by their co-religionists.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by antonvs on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:10PM (#27889699)
Buried in your comment was a short, simple definition of how the term is being used here:

> "decolonized" (opened and freely given to all)

Given that it's a word whose meaning you apparently understood in this context, was the rest of your comment really necessary? Its frothiness makes the whole "religious" charge seem like projection.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by SiVal on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @06:40AM (#27892109)
The meaning was not simply open and freely given to all. It was that plus a payload of a specific type of condemnation of historical villains that is fundamental to the current campus dogma. The meaning of "made available to the public" is not one of the dictionary senses of the term "decolonized", which caused the "confusion" mentioned by the questioner. The "open" part of the meaning as well as the full implication can only be parsed if you recognize the doctrinal jargon.
Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by antonvs on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @10:01AM (#27893823)
I've described the meaning the author used here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27889686

The rest seems to be you just jerking your knee at a term that triggers you.

Here on HN people will use computer jargon or appropriated scientific jargon to describe things. Guess what, the same happens in other circles, just with different terms.

The culture war you're fighting is all in your head.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by swashboon on Monday July 19, 2021 @04:40PM (#27887041)
It's certainly a provocative use of the language. I believe they are making the case that fetishistic hoarding of historical documents is both, only available to those with a means of wealth created through probably exploitation, and in an of itself an aspect of western/euro-centric ideology and its propagation through colonization. I tend to think the hoarding mentality is more base then that (I've watched squirrels before) but I think the argument that hoarding knowledge specifically is certainly a more amorphous problem.

Yes, they are just making the claim that the information should be available. They are putting it into their own contextualized argument framework.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by tablespoon on Monday July 19, 2021 @05:10PM (#27887290)
> I believe they are making the case that fetishistic hoarding of historical documents is...in an of itself an aspect of western/euro-centric ideology and its propagation through colonization.

I'm pretty sure a historian with the right background could easily find examples of that in, for instance, China before it had any significant contact with the West. Trying to particularize it seems incorrect.

> I believe they are making the case that fetishistic hoarding of historical documents is both, only available to those with a means of wealth created through probably exploitation...

That's probably true but well understood. Caring about historical documents, let alone hoarding them, is quite a luxury activity available only to those with wealth, and wealth (now, and especially in the past) usually comes from some kind of exportation of others.

Re:The Brontë archive needs to be secured for public use and... by thebooktocome on Monday July 19, 2021 @05:46PM (#27887618)
It's not clear to me if you object to the choice of word or the action that the author intends for it to mean.