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Re:iMessage, Apple Music used by NSO Pegasus to attack journ... by Dah00n on Monday July 19, 2021 @12:44PM (#27884666)
>You can set iMessage to not put your keys in iCloud like I said above by turning off iCloud Backup which makes it fully End-to-End

"Fully" smells like a weasel word here. Either it is E2EE or it isn't. iMesssage isn't by default from what you are saying and if it requires the other end to also turn off icloud backup before it is E2EE then I'd go as far as stating that it is a completely useless attempt to be E2EE. In fact I'd argue Apple is full of sh*t if they actually ever stared that it is E2EE (but I have no idea if they did).

Comparing Signal to such a mess is... well at a minimum it is disingenuous.

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Re:iMessage, Apple Music used by NSO Pegasus to attack journ... by gjsman-1000 on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:01PM (#27884868)
It's not a weasel word.

The messages are fully end-to-end encrypted, we know that, the EFF has stated as such. However, iCloud Backup means copies of your messages that arrived after the end-to-end process are backed up online. For most people who buy iPhones, having their messages not be permanently lost if their phone is stolen is a fair trade. If you don't want copies of your messages backed up after they arrived through the end-to-end encryption process, then turn it off.

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