U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by protontorpedo on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:36AM (#27882500)

It looks like cyber warfare, as well as espionage, is considered pretty much fair game in geopolitics nowadays. I wonder where the line is drawn that would make it an act of war. In any case, a direct attack from the Chinese government towards it's main trade partners (US, Germany and Japan among them) sounds crazy to me.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by DaftDank on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:58AM (#27882707)

I don't think it's crazy at all. We (i.e. the US) use our SIGINT abilities to spy on allies all the time, or at least according to numerous books and leaks. With that said, I'm not sure that the US government considers China an ally.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by pmcollins on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:48PM (#27885356)

espionage != cyber warfare

> attack crippled thousands of computers around the world

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by dalbasal on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:56PM (#27885432)

Technology has a tendency of merging realms. Whether you compromise a system to get information or to cripple it is pretty much a detail.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by tasogare on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:27AM (#27882974)

Yes, and that includes stealing trade secrets from European companies, which are nominally US allies.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by mjreacher on Monday July 19, 2021 @12:43PM (#27884658)

Was there ever a time when espionage and cyber warfare weren't fair game? To me the only difference seems to have been where a nation state did have the capability and where they didn't.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by sidlls on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:07AM (#27882791)

Why? China wants to build an empire and views the US as an enemy. They will use their military and intelligence forces to achieve that, just like any other country does to achieve their respective goals.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by saddata on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:25AM (#27882948)

China goes down, so does aapl and tsla and our entire economy. Until the American voter is more powerful that the collected business interests of those mega-corps, China will be our most favored trade partner, even as they commit war crimes against the American people (in theory :)

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by xwolfi on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:12AM (#27883516)

I live in Hong Kong, and I don't care either lol. It's not that bad, so far.

The genocide, I stay a bit careful, I tended to consider direct immediate murder as genocide to respect a bit the Holocaust, but I would say they'll pay for it a thousandfold. They're building the Xinjiang country like never before by giving them a shared oppressive history. Israel "started" (or at least really took off) like that so...

I cannot fathom how they don't see it, and that's the weakness of the party: it's so top down, if a stupid idea comes from high enough, it'll get implemented to the most stupid detail.

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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by ok123456 on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:43AM (#27883852)

All the reports about the "genocide" come from one person, Adrian Zenz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Zenz). It's about as credible as reports of Saddam's soldiers ripping babies from incubators. Zenz works for the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and enjoys nothing more than inventing new "victims" to add to the list.

It's pretty funny the lengths to which he and the western media that runs with whatever he says are willing to invent things out of whole cloth to support this. Uighurs openly celebrating Eid was used as evidence of attrocities since this couldn't possibly be their own free will, and it was done as propaganda by Beijing!

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