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Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday July 19, 2021 @08:08AM (#27881700)
It is not whataboutism. It is about 3 decades of seemingly intentional inability to deliver secure product on the mildly evil calculation that the subscriber will need 'security updates' and 'support'.

There is a good argument to be made that Windows is a big target, but they should at least try not making it so easy.

Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by jimmy2020 on Monday July 19, 2021 @08:59AM (#27882138)
> It is about 3 decades of seemingly intentional inability to deliver secure product.

This is a consumer choice. You don't trust Microsoft, you don't use its services. On the government level, you ask for regulations if the situation is escalated (if necessary). But dealing with global cyberattacks is not Microsoft problem and it's not connected to one company or one service. It's an international responsibility to act and establish a framework that prevents such attacks.

Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:34AM (#27882481)
Just the other day I was listening to a radio show ( further right than shown in mainstream ), where a user was clamoring for a proper locked down version of Windows where nothing can go wrong.

The current situation ( and the resulting clamoring ) is absolutely a direct result of people who create this software. Trying to shift the blame onto nonexistent framework is at best laughable and at worst very deceptive. It absolves MS and its engineers from guilt associated with it.

To put it another way, if those engineers were bridge engineers, we would now be witnessing multiple collapses with swathes of engineers arguing that it is not their fault as 'there is an international responsibility to act and establish a framework' that prevents bridges from falling apart.

I am sorry. I do not buy this defense. As an architect, you should know better.

Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by jimmy2020 on Thursday July 29, 2021 @01:21AM (#27993026)
I don't know if you gonna read this, but I should give a credit for your take on the subject. This is what you were talking about: https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/ns-oh-god-how-is-this-l...
Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by jimmy2020 on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:29PM (#27885155)
You have a valid point. I am not arguing against it. I was trying to say discussing how MS deals with the subject is not the point. But after reading your recent comment, well, I guess we should talk more about MS failure.
Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by Woodi on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:31AM (#27882452)
Look, you could be right in... usual case.

But we speaking freaking NATO here !!!!! Do you attach string to hand granade and hand other side to your adversary ? And then argue that someone pulled it ??

Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Exchange is SYNONYM to "security HOLE" ! So tell me - why customer NATO _choose_ to use this ?

Re:U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cy... by jimmy2020 on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:32PM (#27885188)
I don't think NATO has any value here. It's a signal of unity not just to China but to Russia. This is how Biden admin defines "America is back". So it might be aggressive but actually, it's a unity message. Us, the allies, against them the adversaries.