Tesla is offering a $1500 upgrade for early cars to support “full self-driving”

Re:Tesla is offering a $1500 upgrade for early cars to suppo... by gimmeThaBeet on Monday July 19, 2021 @08:07AM (#27881688)

So that part where I think it's really bad, and the fact that they use Full Self-Driving and FSD as basically a brand name is borderline irresponsible. But to me they are pretty consistent in their language, and any talk of autonomous driving I've seen comes from Musk, and is a projection that probably has a significant safe harbor.

They continually seem to draw a very prominent line between "Full Self-Driving" and "Autonomous", where what Tesla defines as autonomous is the much higher standard (i.e summon your car from one coast to the other).

I would in that light, argue that Tesla's hurdle for saying a given car is FSD capable is really low, because imo, it seems like they are comfortable saying Level 2 is like, Full Self-Driving (Beta).

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Re:Tesla is offering a $1500 upgrade for early cars to suppo... by ErikVandeWater on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @08:41PM (#27900997)

I can't see any definition of "full" or "self-driving" that do not require autonomy. This is similar to the case where wireless networks tried to redefine the term "unlimited data" to mean "really a lot of data." The courts ruled against them when they throttled data above a cap that they considered very high usage.

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