Huge data leak shatters the lie that the innocent need not fear surveillance

Re:Huge data leak shatters the lie that the innocent need no... by andrepd on Monday July 19, 2021 @07:35AM (#27881422)

Venice wasn't a democracy in any meaningful way, either in the style of Greek democracy that preceded it or western liberal democracies that succeeded them. It was an oligarchy with limited democratic elements.

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Re:Huge data leak shatters the lie that the innocent need no... by roenxi on Monday July 19, 2021 @07:43AM (#27881481)

Well, sure. But the Athenian-style Greek democracies were such an outrageous success that they're still a part of the common political discourse after 2,500 years and we still have things to learn from the stories they left us. I mean, not every democracy is going to achieve that level of success or quite that place in the public imagination.

What Venice had was pretty good compared to dictatorship.

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Re:Huge data leak shatters the lie that the innocent need no... by oscardssmith on Monday July 19, 2021 @09:43AM (#27882569)

It's worth noting that the popular conception of "Greek democracy" tends to ignore the massive caste of slaves that Greek city states had.

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Re:Huge data leak shatters the lie that the innocent need no... by Zachsa999 on Monday July 19, 2021 @10:23AM (#27882932)

Tell me again how this applies to user privacy concerns?

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