Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by mycall on Sunday July 18, 2021 @09:28PM
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How many of these in-store systems are susceptible to high-powered infrared LED hats that could interfere with the cameras. There are infrared filters for that, but how commonly are they used?
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Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by FractalParadigm on Sunday July 18, 2021 @10:37PM
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That's actually a really interesting question, because if I'm not mistaken, a lot of in-store security cameras will use IR for night vision. Assuming they use the same cameras for both facial-recognition and security, it would be reasonable to assume there's no IR filter, otherwise there would be no night-vision (and would make for a pretty poor security system).
Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by dawnerd on Sunday July 18, 2021 @10:54PM
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All of the night vision capable security cameras I've worked with had an IR filter that would engage when not in night mode. It would be really silly for a store to spend the money on a system like this and use cameras that don't have a filter.
Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Monday July 19, 2021 @11:31AM
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Heck, even the $10-15 cheap Chinese cameras I've purchased lately have this feature (you can hear them "chunk" as the filter is pulled aside when the light level is too low). So it's not even expensive to implement anymore.
Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by bsenftner on Monday July 19, 2021 @12:04AM
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The infrared filters do not help if a plain old, non-infrared bright LED that blinks is used. The IR filters are engaged physically, it takes a bit under a second, but not a lot under a second. With a bright blinking LED, many security cameras are rendered useless because the physical mechanisms compensating for the bright, or lack of, is always too late.
Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by nine_k on Monday July 19, 2021 @01:47AM
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Bright blinking LED of visible wavelength would draw attention to you pretty quickly, I suppose. It would be noticeable from afar.
If I were to build a security camera, it would engage an IR filter as soon as it detects enough ambient visible light, that is, basically all the time a store is open.
Re:From Macy’s to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is alread...
by bsenftner on Monday July 19, 2021 @08:33AM
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Working with IP cameras for a decade now, I've not encountered one that exposes access to control the IR filter short of embedded non-IP cameras aimed at robotics.