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Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday July 18, 2021 @11:26AM (#27873695)
> Same applies to obesity in your opinion?

Of course not. We don’t understand how to prevent obesity. And losing weight—or keeping it off—involves more than visiting a Walgreens.

Also, if you’re obese, you’re suffering the effects of obesity all the time. If you’re unvaccinated, you are fine 99% of the time. If you stay home as much as possible, wear a mask outdoors and avoid large gatherings, you’re likely to continue being fine.

Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday July 18, 2021 @11:53AM (#27873942)
Read your first link. Literally, from the abstract:

“The evidence base is limited in quantity and quality and insufficient to provide clear guidance“ [1].

The entire paper is about the “major evidence gaps.”

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25196414/

Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by BJBBB on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:25PM (#27874183)
Which is why I included it first and did not bury it and did not ignore it on my search. But I will give you brownie and taco points for actually reading the references

I have read many scientific, peer-reviewed papers on this subject. There is too much 'insufficient' data and too much correlation/causation issues. I am a hardware engineer, so am driven, delimited, and succeed or fail on the veracity of my data. I can generally depend on good data provided by suppliers and its efficacy because it is based on Physics. I have read may MS and PhD papers in botany and cellular biology, and a few CDC/NIH/FDA papers on the OT. I will conjecture that there are too many life scientists on these research teams and not enough physical scientists and engineers.

Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by NikolaeVarius on Sunday July 18, 2021 @11:52AM (#27873933)
Losing weight == eating less. Not rocket science
Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by postoak on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:08PM (#27874051)
Humans evolved to allow hunger to override the rational thinking part of the brain. The older parts of the brain can basically shut off the newer (logical thinking) parts. So even if you know you have to eat less to lose weight, often if food is available you won't be able to resist it if you are really hungry. Your statement is wrong, it is more complicated than that because we are hardwired to not starve if food is available.
Re:When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disint... by inglor_cz on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:28PM (#27874205)
And yet no country in the world, rich or poor, Western or non-Western, managed to reduce its obesity levels to, say, three quarters of the maximal value or less.

So it seems to be, in practice, a more complicated problem than reduction of smoking, which has been rather successful in many countries.