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Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by mschuster91 on Sunday July 18, 2021 @06:15AM (#27871856)
> People want to make as big a pile of money as possible, as quickly as they can, with the idea that the pile will be big enough to allow them (and just them) to be secure for the rest of their (and just their) lives.

In a society as cut-throat capitalist as the US, yes. In "welfare states" such as Europe, where everyone has their basic needs in life (housing, healthcare and food) at least somewhat met, this desire is far less pronounced.

Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by mandmandam on Sunday July 18, 2021 @06:32AM (#27871915)
You are right, though I don't know if you'll cut through the cognitive dissonance.

Still though, even in Ireland, where there is a strong social push-back against the greedy ego mentality, there are still people willing to sell out their environment, country, and grandmothers to get a leg up.

These people have done very well for themselves in the last couple decades, and especially well the past few years.

To further show how right you are, these people have invested considerable resources (that have paid off well) in messing up the basic needs you mention of housing, healthcare and food - and I would add media to that list.

To me, this is the core of neoliberalism, and it is a worldwide plague.

Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by valzam on Sunday July 18, 2021 @06:54AM (#27871993)
Ireland seems like a poor example considering that they basically turned themselves into a tax haven withing Europe for international corporations. That is the core of their growth and runs exactly counter to the 'act for the greater good's mentality.
Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by mandmandam on Sunday July 18, 2021 @09:14AM (#27872652)
To be clear, Ireland's government rarely acts for the greater good; moreso, eg. as with tax havens, in the interest of a wealthy few.

What I'm talking about is a widespread attitude among 'normal' people, where anyone with a whiff of too much ego about them is nearly ostracized. So much so, that it's almost a crab-bucket mentality, rather than plain down-to-earthness.

As an example, the normal American style of telling people what you're good at goes down like a lead balloon in Ireland - saying anything positive about yourself without sandwiching it in layers of self-deprecation is seen as unforgivably gauche.

And yet - despite the above - Ireland has no shortage of neolib politicians and moguls, who have rotted our infrastructure from within - such as with tax havens, a very shortsighted and shitty strategy. The have become incredibly wealthy in the process, doubling their wealth or so during the pandemic - and they get away with it because they own the media. It's as if they're invisible, and thus immune to any social pressure.

Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by mschuster91 on Sunday July 18, 2021 @06:59AM (#27872013)
I agree that the rich and powerful in Europe have gone way too rich and powerful for anyone's taste, but still - we aren't even close to the outright dystopian situation in the US.
Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by mandmandam on Sunday July 18, 2021 @09:19AM (#27872672)
I can agree with you there. It's horrifying how bad the US has gotten wrt inequality, and the knock-on effects are going to be felt for generations no matter what.
Re:'No One Is Safe': How the Heatwave Has Battered the Wealt... by refurb on Sunday July 18, 2021 @07:03AM (#27872028)
Your theory might make sense if it were the people who didn't have their basic needs met who were racing to get rich, but it tends to be the opposite - people who already have their basic needs met that are looking to make even more money.