Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by chc on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @06:12PM
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Is this the BBEdit 10 that still can't do auto-indentation or matching braces? Despite being effectively abandonware, TextMate is still surprisingly useful, and other editors still need to catch up to it in a lot of respects.
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by leejoramo on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @07:01PM
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Are you referring to the TextMate that still can't undo more than one character at a time? Or that doesn't include file (much less Multi-file) comparison?
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by neurobashing on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @07:16PM
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What I assume he means is syntax-aware indentation, not general auto-complete. In curly-brace languages, for example, it makes me mental in BBEdit that I have to outdent at the end of a function to make the closing curly line up.
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by jinushaun on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @03:29PM
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I never understood the popularity of Textmate. Nevermind all the plugins and bundles, I think it's a pretty poor text editor. And the lack of Textmate 2 after all these years stupefies me. I don't know why the Mac developer community rallies around such a dated project.
As for me, I'll be waiting for Sublime Text 2 to get out of beta. I use the free Komodo editor for now.
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by stephth on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @05:11PM
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Nevermind all the plugins and bundles
Whether it fits your taste or not, ignoring the plugins and bundles is missing the whole picture. The bundle system together with the fact that it has had a large and strong community backing it up for years is a major, major plus. There are existing bundles out there for almost everything, often even for obscure frameworks/languages. For example, if you don't think you'd want commands or snippets to toy around with new languages, think about syntax highlighting.
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by silencio on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @05:05PM
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Things like a blog post in late 2006 promising support for something I've wanted in the app without hacks in TM 2.0. Now that I think about how that's almost half a decade ago, I'm feeling even more jaded than usual about TM 2.0's existence.
Re:TextMate is getting ready for Lion
by aaronbrethorst on Wednesday July 20, 2011 @06:45PM
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The first comment on that post is, almost five years later, sadly hilarious.
"I am 90% decided on switching to CoreText for text rendering (and making 2.0 Leopard only)…"
Hooo… what a clever idea. I wonder how many license renewals you'll miss. One at the very minimum.
I wonder if the comment's author is, at this exact moment, installing Lion on their current Mac.
They should have got ready for BBEdit 10.
Adding actual features at any point in the past five years would have been good.
Textmate is the saddest example of abandonware, Allan Odgaard has thrown away an army of loyal customers.
Now for your points...
Granted it is an external tool, but I always used AutoPairs to balance in BBEdit (and other apps) http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/autopairs.html
Auto-indentation? I think BBEdit has always had that. Preferences > Editor Defaults > Auto-indent
Or a happy example of abandonware.
Abandonware means no longer sold or supported. TM is still being sold and maintained by its author.
As for me, I'll be waiting for Sublime Text 2 to get out of beta. I use the free Komodo editor for now.
Whether it fits your taste or not, ignoring the plugins and bundles is missing the whole picture. The bundle system together with the fact that it has had a large and strong community backing it up for years is a major, major plus. There are existing bundles out there for almost everything, often even for obscure frameworks/languages. For example, if you don't think you'd want commands or snippets to toy around with new languages, think about syntax highlighting.
http://blog.macromates.com/2006/faking-cjk-support/