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Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:57AM (#27866231)
We donate more to humanitarian causes than the next 10 countries combined. We openly admit we're not perfect and work to make things better. We do more good than anyone else - by a MASSIVE margin. We openly admit we've made mistakes.

Where does this reflexive anti-American bullshit come from?

Re:112 Gripes About the French by cycomanic on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:24AM (#27866416)
The what you call "reflexive anti-american bullshit" comes because of post like yours, which without evidence spout claims such as "we do more good than anyone else - by a assive margin".

The US (as in government) like all large powers are doing a lot of self interested power politics. They have overthrown many democratically elected governments and supported (and sometimes even put in place) some of the worst dictatorships in the world, because it was in their geopolitical interest. They invaded a sovereign country and presented lies to justify the invasion. They jave introduced a massive worldwide surveillance system, that is essentially spying on everyone. Have used that aperatus to spy on allies, and used it for to gain every economic advantage they could get.

Is pointing this out "anti-american bullshit". Has someone who did these things done more good than anyone else by a massive margin?

Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:41PM (#27866973)
Go look up humanitarian giving. These are quantifiable numbers. We do more than the next 10 countries rolled up.

We AGREE about the negative bullshit the US has done. We're actively trying to work on that shit, none of us like it. We've actually done a stellar job looking at our history and current practices and saying "That was fucked up" and "We should fix this going forward."

But we still do WAY more good than, like I said, the next 10 countries combined.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275597/largers-donor-cou...

So it's not all roses, but... Yeah, I wouldn't dismiss us as a net benefit.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by nautilius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @01:19PM (#27867266)
Your source says that, per capita, Germany pays more than the US.
Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:37PM (#27869046)
Did your per Capita calculation roll up the populations of the next 9 countries it would take to equal the US?
Re:112 Gripes About the French by nautilius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:49PM (#27869115)
So your point about why the US are great and morally ‘stellar ‘ (to use your word) is that it’s —- big? Wow, that’s anticlimactic.
Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:17PM (#27869264)
Add up all those populations. We're exceedingly generous, although less so than the Germans.
Re:112 Gripes About the French by nautilius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:08PM (#27869509)
You may want to run the numbers on Norway (5 mio people), Sweden, Netherlands, etc. and all the others that aren’t even on a list that only shows totals and not per capita ‘generosity’.

See, I don’t know if this is helping the case you are trying to make against cycomanic. You come here claiming you are more generous than the next 10 combined, when, in reality, you aren’t even in the top 5.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:24PM (#27869860)
In terms of total dollars given, by far and away? If you add up the populations of the next 9 countries, it dwarfs the US population.

Norway would fit in 1/3 of the most prosperous part of Los Angeles. I assumed we were talking about geopolitical powers.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by nautilius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:53PM (#27869978)
You provided the list, I can’t help that you now do not like it anymore.
Re:112 Gripes About the French by nautilius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:19PM (#27869576)
I mean, believe what you want, just make sure I’m nowhere near when you explain to the waitress why your party of 20 tipping $11 is so much more generous than the one guy tipping $10.
Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:25PM (#27869865)
You regularly tip $200 when you're out in a group?

I mean I guess if it's a wedding party, now that I think about it.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by Intermernet on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:32AM (#27866474)
You know how you just got all defensive and insulted about a generalization made about America? That's how the Chinese, Iranians, Russians, Iraqis etc. feel when you make generalizations about them.

The recent US leadership hasn't done a very good job of representing "American Values". You can expect anti-American sentiment from this.

It may not be justified when referring to individuals, but neither is the xenophobic response to any of the countries listed above.

Fight the governments, not the people.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:49PM (#27867022)
...the countries that repress their own citizens and don't have a free press? You go to China and point out abuses. See how it goes. Or Russia - just don't stand by any windows.

Those countries have legitimate issues we call out. We call ours out too. That's the difference.

Re:112 Gripes About the French by baby on Saturday July 17, 2021 @02:50PM (#27867894)
Have you heard of Navalny?
Re:112 Gripes About the French by analognoise on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:19PM (#27869277)
Yeah he's legit - he was poisoned twice trying to speak the truth. That's not something that happens in the US. Surely that counts for something?