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Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by Arrath on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:46AM (#27856772)
They would still protect from theft and violence, of course. Lets keep in mind that as it stands now, the police don't do that great in the realm of theft anyway.[0] But there are many shortfalls in the system as a whole, and not just the beat cops doing the policing. We need police back in neighborhoods, doing beat patrols, living the in cities and suburbs they police, not commuting in from an hour away. Being rich shouldn't be an easy out because you can hire a high power lawyer, or treat most offences as a minor fine. Why does robbing the bank from the inside get a relative slap on the wrist, while robbing it through the front door gets you shot?

Lets hit a few high points:

End the 'boys club', actually go after sex crimes with a sense of urgency and not let rape kits pile up in evidence rooms, untested?[1]

Not run straight up black sites?[2]

Properly allow freedom of speech and expression, and not come down harder on protests the police themselves don't agree with?[3]

Do a little introspection and address the rampant domestic abuse perpetrated by police?[4]

[0]https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

[1]https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2019/07/nati...

[2]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-poli...

[3]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/us/protest-disparity-study-tr...

[4]https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-...

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Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by nemo44x on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:24PM (#27857918)
> Why does robbing the bank from the inside get a relative slap on the wrist, while robbing it through the front door gets you shot?

Because when you rob it from the outside you're probably using violence to threaten people with their lives. You don't think that's many, many times worse than someone cooking the books or stealing from the register?

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Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by ashtonkem on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:37PM (#27858072)
There are plenty of cases where the social standing of the defendant is determinant of the level of violence brought. Consider shop lifting vs. wage theft. Both are non violent, the latter is estimated to be many times more prevalent than the former. Only one will get you violently arrested though, and one is far more likely to be prosecuted than the other.
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Re:Illinois first state to tell police they can't lie to min... by themaninthedark on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:40PM (#27858095)
Also if you use violence once, then you are more willing to use it in the future. This is bad for society as a whole.
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