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Re:Soldiers speak out about being blocked from repairing equ... by stonogo on Thursday July 15, 2021 @07:22PM (#27851246)
There's no duty to obey an unlawful order; UCMJ case history indicates that in order to be lawful an order can't infringe on the statutory rights of the person receiving the order. In other words, you don't have to kill yourself attempting a patently impossible feat, and as there can be no possible military objective being pursued by giving the order, the officer should know better than to issue it.

As for your second scenario, yes, that's about it. Although to be honest it's unlikely to ever go to court martial; an officer demanding impossible things happens all the time and is dealt with at the company level.

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Re:Soldiers speak out about being blocked from repairing equ... by metaphor on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:17PM (#27852080)
The parent appears to conflate general orders with technical orders; your interpretation of the second scenario appears to do the same as well.
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Re:Soldiers speak out about being blocked from repairing equ... by stonogo on Monday July 19, 2021 @04:33AM (#27880393)
The word "technical" does not appear anywhere in the UCMJ. Technical orders are Air Force specific. There is no distinction between general orders and other kinds of orders in the military at large.
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Re:Soldiers speak out about being blocked from repairing equ... by metaphor on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @12:58AM (#27902491)
Nor did I say it did either.

The proper term "Technical Order" is indeed salient to the Air Force, but the notional concept of a "technical order" is precisely what the parent describes and exists in all branches of service, deriving its authority from a long traceability chain that terminates as a general order issued by the Secretary of the respective branch of service, e.g. in the Navy, its functional equivalent is a "Technical Manual".

I beg to differ on distinction. Whereas both uniformed and civilian personnel are required to comply with executing technical orders per the same chain of authority, the latter is almost completely shielded from the punitive hammer of the UCMJ.

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