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Re:Valve Steam Deck by bogwog on Thursday July 15, 2021 @02:05PM (#27847945)
I wonder if they're selling at a loss? Valve can afford it, plus it'd be no different than Sony/Nintendo/etc subsidizing hardware since they make most of their profits from software sales.

Only difference is that, unlike traditional game companies, this Steam Deck thing isn't a walled garden. But of course, Steam has a near monopoly on PC gaming so it's unlikely that'll be a problem for them.

Re:Valve Steam Deck by baby on Friday July 16, 2021 @02:44AM (#27853597)
I would bet that they do sell at a loss. There's an interview with Gabe[1] in which he keeps repeating that the price point was painful. He is very vague about it but he also mentions some calculus like "they'd have to sell 8 games to be profitable". So I have no doubt they're doing it like the consoles do it.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXgDAF6QpM

Re:Valve Steam Deck by mywittyname on Thursday July 15, 2021 @04:42PM (#27849883)
I doubt it.

If Valve isn't locking the hardware down, but is subsidizing it, then they might run into a situation where cryptominers (or some other group) start buying these things up in bulk, but never playing any games on them.

I could see owning one of these as a non-gaming desktop.

Re:Valve Steam Deck by polytely on Friday July 16, 2021 @05:24AM (#27854459)
They actually did a pretty smart thing, where you can only order it if you have a steam account that has spent money on steam before this month. I would guess that they also limit the amount of Steam Decks you can order as a single person so it would be some effort to start buying these things up in bulk.
Re:Valve Steam Deck by effingwewt on Friday July 16, 2021 @10:17AM (#27856443)
Genius. Man everything about this excites me for the first time in a long time, about anything
Re:Valve Steam Deck by sbierwagen on Thursday July 15, 2021 @07:03PM (#27851132)
For what coins is PC hardware competitive with ASIC?
Re:Valve Steam Deck by Fabricio20 on Thursday July 15, 2021 @10:28PM (#27852482)
Ethereum, because there are not ASICs for it. See the news about recent crackdowns on mining in China, that's where all the GPUs were at, mining Ethereum.
Re:Valve Steam Deck by baby on Friday July 16, 2021 @02:45AM (#27853600)
Ethereum is moving away from proof of work
Re:Valve Steam Deck by eggsome on Friday July 16, 2021 @06:31AM (#27854777)
While this is true they are taking their time. Here is an article from 2017 that suggests they will have finished the transition to proof of stake by 2018:

https://www.crypto-news.net/what-does-ethereums-proof-of-sta...

Re:Valve Steam Deck by mywittyname on Friday July 16, 2021 @11:42AM (#27857465)
I'm just making up hypothetical my friend. I can't really predict what these might be useful for as an alternative to gaming, but the world is full of bright people who exploit any opportunity.
Re:Valve Steam Deck by somehnacct3757 on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:06PM (#27852012)
Nintendo sells its consoles at a profit. It's why their hardware is always "behind" the other guys who are, as you say, selling you $4 of power for $3 and hoping to make it up over time on ecosystem purchases.
Re:Valve Steam Deck by Rebelgecko on Thursday July 15, 2021 @03:02PM (#27848688)
Similar products (look up GPD Win for example) are roughly in the same ballpark cost wise, and that's without much economy of scale.
Re:Valve Steam Deck by nyghtly on Thursday July 15, 2021 @06:31PM (#27850879)
To be honest, I don't think your assumption is that far off. The way that Gabe talks about this device, I feel like the purpose is simply to extend the PC gaming market, which is essential for Steam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXgDAF6QpM

Re:Valve Steam Deck by rchaud on Thursday July 15, 2021 @02:35PM (#27848361)
I don't see why they would, they'd be on the hook for service costs as well.