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Re:The unreasonable effectiveness of just showing up everyday by ipnon on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:48PM (#27838222)
Not all hardworking people are successful, but all successful people are hardworking. Success is not guaranteed, it has an element of randomness. Attempting to be successful involves risk, and "survivorship bias" should be accounted as part of that risk. But still success is not entirely random, because only playing video games or watching TV will not result in it.

It's not that you should think that consistent engineering effort alone will have any payoff, it's that you should think consistent engineering effort might have any payoff.

Re:The unreasonable effectiveness of just showing up everyday by Splendor on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:55PM (#27838310)
> all successful people are hardworking

That really depends on your definition of "successful".

Re:The unreasonable effectiveness of just showing up everyday by ipnon on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @07:57PM (#27839944)
Yes in this sense we would define it as "professionally high-achieving and or rich" rather than in an ascetic sense of "coming to peace with the existence of suffering."
Re:The unreasonable effectiveness of just showing up everyday by Splendor on Thursday July 15, 2021 @11:08AM (#27845629)
> or rich

With that definition, your assertion that "all successful people are hardworking" is clearly false. Lots of people become rich without hard work. Inheriting a fortune, winning the lottery, etc.