Re:Iranian Operatives Planned to Kidnap a Brooklyn Author, P...
by smcl on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:27AM
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I think OP is saying that it’s “kidnap” when they do it but “extraordinary rendition” when we do it, regardless of what the accusation is. A helpful reminder that we correctly perceive this specific case as intolerable, and therefore we should not also allow our governments to do the same regardless of the euphemism they use
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Re:Iranian Operatives Planned to Kidnap a Brooklyn Author, P...
by dogma1138 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:53AM
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No, the OP suggesting there is a moral equivalence between both when there isn’t.
Re:Iranian Operatives Planned to Kidnap a Brooklyn Author, P...
by bawolff on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:56AM
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Why not?
Kidnapping people to face punishment without fair trial seems wrong no matter who does it.
Re:Iranian Operatives Planned to Kidnap a Brooklyn Author, P...
by gknoy on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @01:44PM
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While all (most? many?) extraordinary renditions are kidnappings, not all kidnappings are renditions. The difference is that when doing extraordinary renditions, we are delegating the incarcaration/torture/interrogation of the victim to _some other actor_ specifically so that we can technically not be performing horrible acts. That's what makes it a special kind of kidnapping.
Kidnapping is only one of the ways we ingest people to treat in this manner, if I recall right. Presumably one could be arrested and then renditioned elsewhere -- the rendition is the part where we send someone elsewhere to be harmed in ways that our laws don't permit us to do ourselves.