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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by coldtea on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @06:26PM (#27827019)
>but the vulgarity dilutes the weight of the message

Actually vulgarity was invented (and has historically been used) to improve the weight of such messages. It works too:

"Writing in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science a team of researchers from the Netherlands, the UK, the USA and Hong Kong report that people who use profanity are less likely to be associated with lying and deception." [1]

Can't argue with fucking science.

[1] https://phys.org/news/2017-01-links-honesty.html

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by wpasc on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:39PM (#27827558)
They used a survey of 276 people and then examined some Facebook surveys about "those who used more profanity were also more likely to use language patterns that have been shown in previous research to be related to honesty, such as using pronouns like "I" and "me"."

I don't disagree with you but that study seems like fucking bullshit.

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by phkahler on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @09:37PM (#27828527)
>> don't disagree with you but that study seems like fucking bullshit.

Using the tactic you disagree with to drive your point home. Well played.

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by phkahler on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @09:36PM (#27828513)
It helps IMHO to use it sparingly for emphasis, rather than just being a general potty mouth.

A calm well spoken person grabs a lot of positive attention with an F-bomb carefully dropped. The step out of character alerts people that something must be serious.

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by quesera on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @09:02PM (#27828272)
Vulgarity was is descended from the inappropriate use of existing sacred words. It evolved into a comparative tone device. But it was always a cheap trick (just like the magic words it corrupted).

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That report doesn't say what you want it to.

"Honesty" is not necessarily reality. Someone who is moved to high expressiveness is plausibly sincere, but they are not necessarily rational, reasonable, or correct.

Appealing to emotion works but it is still a cheap trick. If that's what we do here nowadays, well OK, but it's a loss.

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by coldtea on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @02:08AM (#27830166)
>Vulgarity was is descended from the inappropriate use of existing sacred words. It evolved into a comparative tone device. But it was always a cheap trick (just like the magic words it corrupted).

No, that's a puritan misconception.

Not only is a powerful (and culturally significant) method (as opposed to some mere trick), it also has evolutionary and psysiological benefits.

Among tons of other things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoalgesic_effect_of_swearing

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by denton-scratch on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:08AM (#27831077)
> inappropriate use of existing sacred words.

You're thinking of blasphemy. "Vulgar" means "coarse" or "unrefined". It used to mean "concerning the common language", i.e. as spoken by ordinary people; not the literary language, or the legal language, or the clerical language.

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by iratewizard on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @08:07PM (#27827764)
I've got to agree. If anything, the pretension of using bloviating and nascent in the same sentence is counterbalanced with a well placed asshole.