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Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by fooker on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:16PM (#27826432)
>There's no reason not to plant trees in addition to everything else we'll need to do to fix this problem.

Yes, there is. Trees take a up valuable real estate. As long as people can do something even remotely profitable with land they own, this can not work.

Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by schiffern on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:11PM (#27827367)
Trees are valuable too. The problem is we don't understand and/or appreciate that value.

For instance, trees essentially power the entire terrestrial water cycle. Without trees all the water rains out within a few hundred km of the coast. Trees (far moreso than simple evaporation) are responsible for pushing that water back into the air-stream. Isotopic analysis confirms that 80% of the rainfall on land is caused by transpiration, and most of that is trees. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature11983

This explains why deforestation causes desertification. Cut down the trees and you get a continent-wide desert.

These dynamics aren't well-captured by the present economic system, which only sees "valuable real estate" being "taken up" by trees.

Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by lovemenot on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:53PM (#27827651)
>> Anyone still think it's a good idea to utilize all that "valuable real estate" being "taken up" by trees?

As long as plantation owners and/or illegal loggers do, then all your argumentation is moot.

Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by schiffern on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @08:21PM (#27827898)
Correct, thanks. Incidentally before seeing your post I just edited that part for clarity. Since I already made the edit, I'll leave it as-is.
Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by xvilka on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @09:32PM (#27828486)
Just up the ante for illegal logging and equate it to terrorism. Life sentence for anyone involved. I am sure it will make anyone think twice before doing illegal logging with such punishment.
Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by jnosCo on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:22PM (#27826482)
With carbon credits, planting trees can be a profitable land use.
Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by rfrey on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @09:37PM (#27828524)
Stop subsidizing industry by socializing the cost of carbon and planting trees will be profitable.
Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by BurningFrog on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @08:25PM (#27827926)
Yes, tree planting for carbon binding absolutely need to be profitable to get real traction!
Re:$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal by gammarator on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @08:58PM (#27828247)
The US government already pays many farmers to plant things other than commodity crops.