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Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by mikepurvis on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @12:03PM (#27822633)
Having done it now for a year, it sounds like you're pretty happy with how it's going. Are you satisfied with what you've achieved? Or is part of the mindset shift that you're just not thinking in those terms any more and are looking only to the day to day?

In my working life, I've only ever taken about a month off at a time, but every time I've taken a longer break like that, I end up ultimately feeling dissatisfied with myself. I go into it with what a I think is a reasonable list of chores/projects that I want to make progress on, but ended up just puttering around— paradoxically, I get a lot more done when I have short bursts of time and have to force myself to bite off a manageable chunk and actually see it through.

I've heard people argue that a few weeks just isn't long enough to trigger productive restlessness, and that's why a sabbatical is more like 6-12 months. But this is what I worry about for myself if I were ever in a position to retire young.

Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by zoba on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @12:17PM (#27822815)
I'm quite happy with the outcome so far. Though, my aims are humble. My intention for this period of life (however long it lasts) is to live 'organically' and observe the results. My primary observation is that I'm happy consistently - something that was inconceivable with my old style of X to Y to Z goal planning.

In your second paragraph you mention trying to be as productive as possible during your time off. Seems like you'd be setting yourself up for disappointment there. If you instead approach that time off with 'whatever happens, happens' approach you'll be more forgiving of yourself and may actually be able to relax so you can be more productive later.

The theory I'm exploring is that happiness is healthy. By living happily, perhaps I am repairing whatever damage I did when I was so intensely on the career grind (it was rewarding but, ultimately unhealthy in a burnout way). And, by doing that repair, perhaps I'll be better suited to be even more productive.

Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by mnowicki on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:16PM (#27824253)
Do you mean more productive so that you can return to work of some kind and accomplish more than you have in the past? If so, then even if your theory proves to be true, wouldn't you rather continue living happily instead of using that period of happiness to fuel more productivity even if it doesn't make you as happy?

Or by more productive, are you referring more to building more dams rather than working more?

Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by selestify on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:39PM (#27827559)
My main worry is that I won’t save enough for hard times in the future if I’m living organically without much future planning. Have you ever had fears like that?
Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by devangs on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @12:29AM (#27829740)
Ultimately, it depends on the type of risks you’re trying to mitigate and the type of skills you have to earn again.

If you’re a software developer (or a plumber or a CPA etc) you can always get back into the workforce after some amount of time. If it takes you 1 year to leetcode and find a new job, you just need to keep 1 year of expenses as cash on hand.

Tail risk is a different story, but you can spend your whole life working and not save enough to handle all tail end scenarios

Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by mym1990 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @12:13PM (#27822763)
I am a similar way and at least for me I feel somewhat programmed to be needing to do something or maybe even feeling the need for someone to tell me to do something so that I can feel like I am creating value(not at all saying you are like this, just a personal account). I am in a position where I can be unemployed with little consequence, but I'm afraid that the free time will just go to waste. And I think on a larger scale that is a big problem.
Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by mikepurvis on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:01PM (#27824069)
For me, it's not even the "larger scale"— I'm well aware that the current economic structure allows for a small wealthy leisure class who wile away the days indulging themselves in socializing and consumption activities. And I know there are many who would love nothing more than to join that class and just travel, party, play video games, whatever.

I just... yeah, don't find it satisfying when I've had small tastes of that life. I like to be able to look back at the journey and see how it led to growth in my skills and achievements I'm proud of showing off.

Re:Building a vision of life without work (2015) by nicbou on Thursday July 15, 2021 @05:45AM (#27842962)
Tbe feeling of permanence changes things a bit. It's not a vacation from something but a new state of being.

You can then pick up new hobbies, or just return to old hobbies with renewed enthusiasm. You can do things that matter even if they're of no economic interest. You can hone skills that aren't career-related.

I think that it also requires a shift in values.