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Re:People Staring at Computers by TheOtherHobbes on Monday July 12, 2021 @04:50AM (#27808363)
But you are defending a home raid on someone who was not brought to trial, but was making a politcal and moral point about corporate tools and corporate behaviours.

When you think criticism - oblique, but clearly still harmless - is more of a problem than the behaviours, you are very much trying to shoot the messenger.

Re:People Staring at Computers by bbarnett on Monday July 12, 2021 @05:09AM (#27808449)
I think, as soon as he became the actor as well, he ceased being "the messager" in the terms of solely passing on a message.

Put another way, "shoot the messenger" is a phrase used when an unbiased person, merely delivering a message of bias/harm from another, is attacked for the message.

You are not a messenger, when you perform the act/deed/thing yourself.

Re:People Staring at Computers by NotEvil on Monday July 12, 2021 @06:24AM (#27808858)
That is what I don't understand why he can't be a messenger and an actor at the same time.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white you know

Re:People Staring at Computers by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday July 12, 2021 @07:47AM (#27809302)
Then it isn’t shooting the messenger because they’re also an actor? Being a messenger doesn’t grant someone immunity from being critiqued for doing unethical things.
Re:People Staring at Computers by NotEvil on Thursday July 15, 2021 @08:11AM (#27843807)
No, it don't. But being an actor doesn't mean an individual can't be an messanger doing something in good faith.

"Dooing good, through bad methods"

Re:People Staring at Computers by overboard2 on Monday July 12, 2021 @09:33AM (#27810069)
>But you are defending a home raid on someone who was not brought to trial

He should have been brought to trial