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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by zelphirkalt on Friday July 09, 2021 @11:41AM (#27784832)
> Honestly I don't think I can fault students who cheated during the pandemic, it was just so abnormal that most people did whatever they had to to cope.

Cheating is never OK. Look what that lead to. A few bad apples ruined it for the other students. People have to learn, that their behavior in such a setting does not only affect themselves. In this case it very negatively impacted everyone studying with them.

Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by gopher_space on Friday July 09, 2021 @12:07PM (#27785163)
Why are we constantly surprised when people focus on the only metrics they're judged by?
Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by johnnyanmac on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:12PM (#27786677)
>People have to learn, that their behavior in such a setting does not only affect themselves

at some point it's like defensive driving. Sure, they are at fault and an idiot, but for the sake of your own safety you shouldn't "stick to your morals" or just "hope they get theirs". Look out for yourself, because for some people that's the only person that will do it.

With that lens, yes. I don't blame people who need to do what they do for one day in some artificial environment so they aren't impacted in their transition to real world work where they are otherwise moral.

Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by 908B64B197 on Friday July 09, 2021 @10:43PM (#27790709)
> People have to learn, that their behavior in such a setting does not only affect themselves. In this case it very negatively impacted everyone studying with them.

Except, for many competitive positions, that's a zero-sum game.

Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by zelphirkalt on Saturday July 10, 2021 @10:03AM (#27793409)
Unfortunately you are right and it probably means, that for many competitive positions the process of evaluation is not a good one.
Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by majjgepolja on Saturday July 10, 2021 @01:28AM (#27791330)
It's a grey area.

In india, the engineering curriculum includes lot of subjects that are not useful for the students but only there because some fat belly officer thought it would be "Interdisciplinary".

Can you imagine teaching biology as a subject for engineers? waste of money and not what we have come to learn, or interested in. But colleges in India do that.

Cheating in such subjects is fair.

Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by bigcorp-slave on Saturday July 10, 2021 @02:16AM (#27791510)
It’s not a grey area, it devalues the degree for everyone and betrays you as a fundamentally dishonest and low value person.
Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by majjgepolja on Monday July 12, 2021 @03:08AM (#27807842)
Those subjects are not there for any meaningful purpose. Imagine having a CS degree program and teaching chemistry, physics, biology and a bunch of even lesser subjects is blatant and ignorant waste of students' money.
Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by bigcorp-slave on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @12:43PM (#27823140)
Tell me you’re an SDE1 without telling me you’re an SDE1