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Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by halayli on Monday July 18, 2011 @04:53PM (#2778193)
web micro frameworks are evil although they don't look like that in the beginning, I advice to avoid them by all means.

IMO, even though pylons 1.0 is now frozen, it is still one of the most flexible frameworks out there.

Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by tmhedberg on Monday July 18, 2011 @05:22PM (#2778324)
Care to qualify this highly general and rather hyperbolic statement? Which specific aspects of "micro" frameworks do you find to be "evil"?
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by fragsworth on Monday July 18, 2011 @06:17PM (#2778562)
You tend to need to add features in unforeseen ways. Popular large frameworks can facilitate this more than micro-frameworks can, resulting in less work on the developer's part.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by halayli on Monday July 18, 2011 @07:28PM (#2778855)
micro frameworks provide incomplete feature set. You tend to reinvent the wheel many times. I see no advantage in using them when I can have something more complete and feature rich.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by espeed on Monday July 18, 2011 @08:45PM (#2779100)
Because as your app grows and you need more custom behavior, you find that you start stripping out the full-stack framework features and you end up with using it like a micro framework, which it wasn't designed to be so you have now have a framework mismatch.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by halayli on Monday July 18, 2011 @09:54PM (#2779263)
pylons is a glue framework. It allows you to replace whatever you want, easily and without losing other framework features.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by jiri on Monday July 18, 2011 @05:56PM (#2778461)
I like pylons a lot and I am using it for few projects, but I hate dependecy on many libraries, things get complicated this way very soon. For smaller sites I recommend web2py - it is one package and it is very straightforward and easy although Pylons seems to be more flexible.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by halayli on Monday July 18, 2011 @07:25PM (#2778842)
dependencies are taken care of by pylons once it gets installed. I like that Ben made it this way because many of these dependencies can be reused in other projects.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by mdda on Monday July 18, 2011 @08:11PM (#2778984)
Has anyone else moved over to Pyramid (next iteration for Pylons - particularly with the Akhet suite : mako, beaker, SQLalchemy)? I'm surprised it isn't mentioned on HN more.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the Django community? by espeed on Monday July 18, 2011 @08:48PM (#2779108)
I liked Pylons and I wanted to like Pyramid but couldn't get into it. Then I discovered Flask (http://flask.pocoo.org) and moved on to using it with Bulbflow (http://bulbflow.com).