> It is NOT cheaper in SF. 2 miles costs at least $20 and can be as high as $40

Can confirm. Arrived at SFO late the other night (1130pm-ish) and Uber wanted $80 to take me from Passenger pickup, to my longterm parking lot which was probably 3 miles away.

I ended up taking a Taxi for $12 + tip.

I’ve never had a non-surge Uber/Lyft exceed the equivalent Flywheel/street-hail in SF.

I occasionally used to try these services (I have thousands of rides so this used to be relevant). Lyft/Uber are way better.

It isn't the case they are more expensive than taxi's where I am. I take it now that isn't the case everywhere. And even in in the SF area I don't believe that taxi's would be cheaper if you lived slightly out of the core areas and had to call one to drive out to you.

I am also still extremely skeptical they contribute to higher prices though. If Uber and Lyft did not exist I believe (just a theory) that taxi prices would be much higher.

Perhaps someone who lives in a city where ubers are banned could state if taxi prices have grown over the years.