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Re:We’re all criminals now by quonn on Thursday July 08, 2021 @11:56AM (#27773704)
How is that different from an asset in a bank account? What matters who controls the access to it.
Re:We’re all criminals now by mrverify on Thursday July 08, 2021 @04:46PM (#27777387)
A crypto wallet is a handful of bytes. Perhaps a string of words if you are using passphrases as mnemonics. Where does that exist? A bank or exchange does have a physical location and would exist somewhere, but a crypto wallet really has no defined location unless specifically being held in a defined place on a defined server as per business rules. Its like saying "you cannot leave South Africa because your body is worth, like, um 50,000 USD in harvested organs..."
Re:We’re all criminals now by rawtxapp on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:06PM (#27773864)
They can compel the bank directly, no one can "force" the blockchain do to anything that's not programmed to do.
Re:We’re all criminals now by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:13PM (#27773970)
> can compel the bank directly, no one can "force" the blockchain do to anything that's not programmed to do

This doesn't work with banks outside a court's jurisdiction. That doesn't stop enforcement.

We already have tools that informally designate tainted versus untainted wallets. Incorporating that into the law wouldn't be that difficult nor, I suspect, controversial.

Re:We’re all criminals now by DistantCl3ric on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:20PM (#27774133)
This is the issue though. Reserve banks doesnt want money flowing out of SA to any organisation it cannot compel.

Enter the exchange control laws from the 60s that still limit capital flow out of SA.

1m ZAR per annum per person(~70k USD) this includes things like Netflix subscriptions, Amazon orders etc.

Re:We’re all criminals now by da_big_ghey on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:37PM (#27774412)
but did stop enforcement... swiss banks were for many years never disclosing and it had stopped enforcement in many case... this only has been changed in recent years... birkenfeld disclosures led to no more american clients out of american regulation, swiss signing FACTA, similar thing.
Re:We’re all criminals now by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:50PM (#27774611)
> did stop enforcement... swiss banks were for many years never disclosing

As you say, there was a delay, not a stoppage.

Re:We’re all criminals now by da_big_ghey on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:55PM (#27774697)
no, stoppage for many century until policy change. policy remain a stoppage, just it has removed.
Re:We’re all criminals now by ineedasername on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:28PM (#27774265)
They can't compel a bank outside their jurisdiction. If your crypto is in Coinbase and you convert it to USD and then send it in to South Africa when you need to convert to the local currency & buy something, it seems like you'll be okay.

I suppose the issue will be getting you paycheck $$ from South Africa into Coinbase (or wherever)

Re:We’re all criminals now by shkkmo on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:13PM (#27773989)
They cam force the those who control access to specific assets on the chain to do something in the exact same way they can force a bank to do something.