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Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by tpmx on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:16PM (#27755083)
Elite does not necessarily equal smart, in this context.

(This comment doesn't make any sense after you edited your comment. Weak sauce.)

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by iNane9000 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:43PM (#27755304)
Exactly, educated doesn’t mean schooled/credentialed. The word for this is “discrimination”— the more educated people we produce the less discriminating our institutions must be. If academia doesn’t discriminate the few from the many, it’s non-functional. Colleges are not to educate the public, they’re supposed to advance human knowledge. These are incongruent goals.
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by R0b0t1 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:59PM (#27757200)
No they're not. They are related in theory if not in actual practice.
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by joe_the_user on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:39PM (#27756438)
The Economist pretty clearly said elites equals educated. Maybe they misstate Turchin's position but it's understandable the parent responded to that.

-- And the whole "elite = educated" trope is a vicious rightwing canard that's gotten way too much play on this site, so clarification is useful.

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by armatav on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:59PM (#27755434)
I edited it 5 seconds after posting it. You posted 20 minutes after I posted it.
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by reificator on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @07:55PM (#27755848)
> I edited it 5 seconds after posting it.

And those edits don't propagate to pages that are already open.

> You posted 20 minutes after I posted it.

GP could easily have taken 20 minutes to read the article and comments before wading in. I know I've posted replies after leaving a tab open for hours before.

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by anigbrowl on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:03PM (#27756583)
That is hardly OP's fault, since there is no way to be aware of others' HN reading behavior.
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by reificator on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @02:28AM (#27758018)
> That is hardly OP's fault, since there is no way to be aware of others' HN reading behavior.

I don't remember assigning fault.

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by armatav on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @05:01AM (#27758942)
“Weak sauce”?
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by reificator on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @04:00PM (#27765164)
> “Weak sauce”?

Whether that counts as assigning blame or not, I have not typed those words in the last decade or more.

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by armatav on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:37PM (#27779646)
I only just realized you aren't even the person who posted it.

Let's drop this thread, if he has a problem with me editing it, that's on him to say; I thought you were him considering how deep this got.

Here's the underlying: he responded late, it's his job to refresh, that's not etiquette, it's how the site functions.

Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by anigbrowl on Thursday July 08, 2021 @02:40AM (#27769008)
Sure, but as a casual passer-by it seems like you're rationalizing the somewhat petulant comment from tpmx which did include those words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27755083
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by reificator on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:52PM (#27775533)
> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
Re:A theory that “elite overproduction” leads to political i... by anigbrowl on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:10PM (#27779525)
You could have said that to the person complaining about 'weak sauce' in the first place. Or you could have applied it to my previous comment* instead of quibbling. It's a two-way street.

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27756583