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Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by Groxx on Monday July 18, 2011 @03:12AM (#2775403)
In non-life-or-death situations, people endure quite a large amount of discomfort to achieve other goals. But a high-enough level of discomfort kills people. Does this mean the ones enduring small amounts are irrational?

Reducto-ad-absurdum is a proof only when it takes into account everything in the argument. In life-or-death examples, other normally-included portions are dropped, making the argument something else entirely. It's just a straw-man attempt, not a valid point.

Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by sliverstorm on Monday July 18, 2011 @03:36AM (#2775444)
It's not a straw-man. I have attempted to refute nothing. I was merely asking my parent to consider how he might behave in such a situation.

I used a different situation, it is true, but only because I have found being on the instructional end of cheating feels very different than you might imagine, so I guessed my parent was not familiar with it.

Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by Groxx on Monday July 18, 2011 @03:50AM (#2775470)
You attempted to refute the claim that people should control themselves better in such situations. And you did so very clearly, by inferring that spreading the mood to the 75% was perfectly logical.

As a student who has not cheated, but has had to sit through countless lectures about cheating, and a few where large portions of the class did, I ask you and (other?) teachers this question: to whom are you teaching? The ones who are learning, or the ones who are cheating?

I understand that you're stuck with both, but either find motivation in the successes or consider another line of work - it's part of the job. Otherwise you're screwing the ones who did the right thing.

Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by scott_s on Monday July 18, 2011 @11:35AM (#2776683)
He's not saying it's logical. He's saying it's inevitable based on how people are wired.
Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by Groxx on Monday July 18, 2011 @01:21PM (#2777152)
And therefore we shouldn't control ourselves better?
Re:Why I will never pursue cheating again by scott_s on Monday July 18, 2011 @01:31PM (#2777205)
People have limits. I don't know enough about the situation to know if he was under the kind of load that would cause most people to act differently, but I suspect that is the case.