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Re:Windows 11 laptops will require front facing camera in 2023 by Arnt on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @01:07PM (#27751350)
This is also the Microsoft that IMO has the best, most user-friendly approach to keeping the computer as the user wants it, while allowing the changes the user wants.

Debian didn't impress me when I upgraded my main workstation recently. A long list of important prompts and not so important prompts, enough to make me click "ok, whatever, get on with it". (Oh, and even Debian also requires a network interface and contains a phone-home package. Getting security fixes without a normal network interface is a Challenge, and security fixes aren't really optional these day.)

Re:Windows 11 laptops will require front facing camera in 2023 by layer8 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @02:28PM (#27752469)
> Oh, and even Debian also requires a network interface and contains a phone-home package. Getting security fixes without a normal network interface is a Challenge, and security fixes aren't really optional these day.

I’d say security fixes are rather optional these days if you have no network interface.

Re:Windows 11 laptops will require front facing camera in 2023 by Arnt on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:53AM (#27760020)
Certainly, but does that matter at all? Can you even buy one?

You certainly can buy a new laptop on Amazon, open it, remove the WLAN antenna, glue the USB plug(s) and need no security fixes. But at that point you're far from the mainstream. And I am impressed by how Microsoft manages to provide decent security in a user-friendly way, one that expects little unrealistic behaviour and doesn't restrict the term "user" to people far from the mainstream.