Peter Thiel’s $5B Roth IRA Tax Haven Is the Hottest New Investing Tip

Re:Peter Thiel’s $5B Roth IRA Tax Haven Is the Hottest New I... by perl4ever on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:41PM (#27744029)

>So the "investing tip" is to gamble on wildly speculative investments rather than invest in index funds. Investing in highly undervalued assets - it's so simple, why didn't I think of that sooner!?

I don't think that's as useless a tip as you make it sound.

Suppose everybody invests in exactly the S&P 500. Nevertheless, each person can decide to hold the more speculative stocks in their Roth IRA and the others in a regular IRA, 401k, or taxable account.

That doesn't require identifying the best investments, just the relatively volatile ones.

So it seems like logical advice that is practical to implement, to me.

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Re:Peter Thiel’s $5B Roth IRA Tax Haven Is the Hottest New I... by xref on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:18AM (#27744186)

It’s a useless tip. If you have the ability to pick a $5bil winner you don’t need an ira. Just keep picking yourself $5bil winners in a regular taxable account and you’ll be fine.

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Re:Peter Thiel’s $5B Roth IRA Tax Haven Is the Hottest New I... by perl4ever on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:34AM (#27744248)

> If you have the ability to pick a $5bil winner

Nobody here thinks people can do that. I asserted the tip is meaningful even assuming people can't pick winners.

The universe of available stocks contains different companies, with different market capitalizations, and different historical volatilities.

Assuming you can't select the best performing ones, you can still select the ones that are smaller and more volatile.

Do you have an issue with the assertion that owning foreign stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, etc (for a US person) is best done in a taxable account and not an IRA? Or does market efficiency indicate to you that shouldn't matter?

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